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Subject: Re: AMD Opteron 2 x 248

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:54:10 05/16/04

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On May 16, 2004 at 15:39:18, Anthony Cozzie wrote:

>On May 16, 2004 at 13:56:23, Tom Likens wrote:
>
>>On May 16, 2004 at 13:17:17, Anthony Cozzie wrote:
>>
>>>On May 16, 2004 at 11:10:01, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 16, 2004 at 11:05:36, Anthony Cozzie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 16, 2004 at 10:14:07, K. Burcham wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Has anyone here posted using dual 248s?
>>>>>>wonder how 2 x 248 AMD compares to dual Xeon 3.2 with 1 meg cache running a 32
>>>>>>bit commercial chess program?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-433&depa=0
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=120140
>>>>>>
>>>>>>kburcham
>>>>>
>>>>>Like Mike, I have dual 246s.  Opteron is a great CPU, but the 64-bit software
>>>>>isn't *quite* ready, at least on linux (imo).
>>>>
>>>>Running 32 bit chess engines on that system, how much speedup do you see in
>>>>comparison to the fastest 32 bit dual system?
>>>
>>>I wouldn't know.  I only run 64 bit linux :)  It works pretty well, but there
>>>are definitely a few bugs left.  I'd say in another 3 months my system will be
>>>good enough for me (new nvidia drivers, a few more kernel versions).
>>>
>>>anthony
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>anthony
>>
>>Anthony,
>>
>>Are you running 64-bit SUSE or one of the Red Hat flavors?  I've got an FX-51
>>that I initially loaded 32-bit SUSE on (this was before SUSE supported SATA
>>drives right out of the box) and was pleasantly surprised at how fast the
>>32-bit programs ran (chess engines included).  When I finally installed the
>>64-bit version, I was unpleasantly surprised at how *slow* the 32-bit software
>>ran (including and especially the various Linux engines I test against).
>>
>>I got the requiste 64-bit boost when I converted Djinn over to a true 64-bit
>>program but was somewhat dismayed with the 32-bit slowdown of its sparring
>>partners.  I *could* dual-boot into a 32-bit version of Linux for testing but
>>frankly that offends my sensibilities and seems like a bit of a waste.
>>
>>regards,
>>--tom
>
>Hmm, I haven't tried.  I usually test against crafty, and I compiled a version
>in 64-bit mode.  I would have thought that 32 bit apps would run quickly because
>this is essentially _hardware_ emulation, but maybe not . . . .
>
>anthony


I don't see his problem.  32 bit code runs the same on a 32 bit or 64 bit
operating system.  The opteron just doesn't get to use all its "stuff" in 32 bit
mode.  I (and others) have done this several times and didn't see a 32 bit
program run slower on a 64 bit O/S...

Not sure what is going on there...



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