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Subject: Re: Hardware and WCCC limits?

Author: Richard Pijl

Date: 11:58:00 05/19/04

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>>
>>It is not about playing games.
>>It is not about winning prizes.
>>It is not about pleasing spectators
>>
>>It is about meeting the other participants.
>
>That is the idea behind a "conference".  It is possible to do a 2-3 day chess
>conference, but play the actual games automatically either in parallel with the
>conference or before/after...

I do not object against automatic playing on e.g. a (local) ICS. I do object
against remote participation. The author should be on-site. If not possible
perhaps an operator could do, but that is certainly not preferred.

>>It is about fair competition with minimized fraud possibilities. (hitting the
>>'move-now' button or changing engine setting mid-game is easy when you can't
>>been seen by your opponent)
>
>It is easy when you _can_ be seen.  It has happened many times in the past.
>
>Oh yes.  It would be harder to resign a won or drawn position because you think
>that is the "right result" if things are automated.  No operator time penalties
>for slow vs fast typing.  No time funny-business.  No forgetting to hit the
>chess clock.  No move input errors.  Etc...

Again, no objection against automatic playing. Especially for faster time
controls it is probably a must.

>>I've participated in the last two CCT-tournaments. I also join in the grand-prix
>>cycle on ICC. I think it is a nice way of organizing a tournament. But chat
>>online is limited, and channel 64 is (during CCT) usually spammed by nitwits.
>>I've also participated in 3 CSVN tournaments, 2 Dutch championships and one
>>tournament in Paderborn, all requiring presence of the author/operator. I also
>>visited (as a spectator) Maastricht 2002 twice, and Paderborn 2003. I had to
>>skip Graz 2003 because of my daughters birthday that was during the tournament.
>>If I have to chose between participating in an on-site tournament and an on-line
>>tournament I'll choose the on-site tournament if my funds are sufficient.
>
>That is the point.  Suppose you discover it will cost $3000 US to attend.  Will
>that change things?  It does for me...

Of course. I just made a calculation that it would cost 700euro's minimum for me
(that includes sharing a hotel room, cheap flight which is not very advisable
with my posture, contribution by/to the organisation and pocket money to buy
meals and drinks).

>>There you'll have the possibility of really meet all the heroes of computer
>>chess, drink a beer with them and have dinner with them. I don't see that
>>happening in an online tournament.
>
>Looks like you won't see it happening much longer.  Last WCCC = 16.  This one
>has 10 so far.  I can compute the slope of the linear function used to
>approximate rate of change....
>

The move to give 500$ to cover part of the travelling costs is a step in the
right direction. Now we need a less controversial location and a shorter
tournament to reduce costs further.

>>
>>Richard.



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