Author: Uri Blass
Date: 03:29:13 05/23/04
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On May 23, 2004 at 05:54:38, Vasik Rajlich wrote: >On May 22, 2004 at 16:04:14, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On May 22, 2004 at 15:46:14, K. Burcham wrote: >> >>> >>>These parts were priced at Monarch Computer. >>>http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv >>> >>>The MSI motherboard should be dependable, very little speed difference between >>>dual processor motherboards. >>>I priced the new Opteron 250, so this will give you Opteron 64 @ 4800 MHZ. >>>The case is very high quality. I prefer a sealed case with a filter on intake >>>fans but could not find on this site. I prefer more cfm intake than exhaust for >>>positive case pressure. >>>I priced 2 sticks of 512 for 1 gig ram--not sure how much your hash setting will >>>be for tournament. Maybe for you 2 Gig is better. >>>Seagate has been dependable for me. This hard drive is very good speed 7200 rpm, >>>160 GIG, 8 meg cache, low heat. >>>I priced the CD R/W DVD R/W combo, good price. I thought this drive was scary at >>>first because mechanically complex but mine is working very good. >>>sound card is dependable and cheap. >>>Video card is not fast, but very good for chess, low heat, good price and >>>dependable brand----also video card is same brand as motherboard. this is a plus >>>for me. >>>not sure if you need modem and/or network card. both included for travel. >>>Operating System is Windows XP Pro. This is SMP compatable. I have been using >>>with no issues. Advantage to having original Operating System CD instead of HP, >>>Dell etc. recovery CD. >>>Power supply is 465 watts---plenty. >>>Extra 3 year warranty. >>>The heat sink and fan is ok for this system. You should not overclock or tweak >>>hardware for your purpose. Stay quiet and dependable. >>>This system should be very dependable, low heat, low maintenance, very quiet, >>>and extremely fast. >>>Price can be reduced by going with slower Opteron. >>>So far everytime I have built a system, all cables have been with drives and >>>Motherboards. >>>Of course all wires, quick disconnects, and plugs are already installed on power >>>supply. The newer models have more than enough. >>>Stay away from SCSI and Raid. Not necessary for you. not good for first >>>system---keep it simple and dependable. >>>If you order parts, post here when your parts are in and several here will give >>>you assembly and operating system tips for dependability and program speed. >>> >>>Uri---question---Is Movei SMP for this tournament? I assume you want dual for >>>comp-comp games later. >> >>Movei is not smp but I want dual for testing with pondering and maybe for smp >>later(I do not plan smp in the near future). >> >>Thanks for list of things that I need to buy. >> >>I see that the 2 processors are 1798$ and they are most of the price. >>I am afraid that in Israel it is going to be more expensive so I may go >>for optern 248 or opteron 246. >> >>The question is what is the difference in performance from the point of view of >>chess programs and what is the difference in price. >> >>I think that for being 10% faster I do not plan to add 1000$ but for being 50% >>faster I will add 1000$. >> >>Uri > >Chess programs are bottlenecked almost 100% on CPU speed. If you go from 2.2 GHz >to 2.4 GHz, you speed goes up pretty much by (2.4-2.2)/2.2. (Assuming same >architecture of course.) > >In fact the speedup is a tiny bit less than that, because the max memory speed >is the same on all of the Opterons. > >BTW in the CCC archives you will find some crafty benchmarks on the various >Amd64 systems. > >Vas There are things that are not about Ghz. Opteron248 or opteron246 or opteron244 is not Ghz. Uri
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