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Subject: Re: Opinions? A Crafty experiment...

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 13:55:55 05/24/04

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On May 24, 2004 at 16:43:13, Dieter Buerssner wrote:

>On May 24, 2004 at 16:16:15, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On May 24, 2004 at 16:04:23, Peter McKenzie wrote:
>>
>>>I would say that if Crafty's expected score against Shredder in around 25-30%
>>>then in a 10 game match there is still a reasonable chance of getting a 50%
>>>score.  Someone else can probably give the exact probability but I'd guess it is
>>>at least 10%, in which case it certainly seems worth 'hoping for'.
>
>>We need to know the probability for draw and the probability for a win for white
>>to calculate.
>
>For example these values (which may include different probabilities for draws as
>white and as black). Or some other combination of the winning/drawing
>probabilities for white and black.
>
>>If we assume that white has 80% chances to win and 20% to draw in case that
>>white is shredder when it is 100% draw in case that white is Crafty then the
>>expected result is 7-3 but the probability for 5-5 is 0.2^5 that is very
>>small(0.032%).
>>
>>If we assume 70% for shredder 30% for crafty in every game then the probability
>>for 5-5 is 0.7^5*0.3^5*10!/(5!^2) and it is more than 10%.
>
>A bit more. 15% for the probability of the weaker player to get 5-5 or better.

Yes

more than 10% is only the probability to get exactly 5-5 so it is logical that
if you include win for the weaker player you get even 15%.

Your estimate of 7-9% in the real case of expected result of 70%
also make sense

Uri



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