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Subject: Re: RULES FOR THE 12TH WORLD COMPUTER-CHESS CHAMPIONSHIP

Author: José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba

Date: 04:17:23 06/10/04

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On June 09, 2004 at 17:18:55, Peter Berger wrote:

>On June 09, 2004 at 13:24:54, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:
>
>>On June 09, 2004 at 08:31:21, Peter Berger wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I enjoyed reading your posts but you generalized the problem too much IMHO. I
>>>specifically referred to legal Swiss pairings only. I agree that there will
>>>always be some way of pairing left but not one that also follows the much
>>>stricter rules for Swiss pairings.
>>>
>>>If you have sufficient time you can look them up here:
>>>http://www.fide.com/official/handbook.asp?level=C04
>>>
>>>Peter
>>
>>Well, I did not generalise the problem too much. The FIDE swiss system rules are
>>for sure strict, but they allow score brackets to be melted together if there is
>>no other way of producing a pairing. Doing that succesvely until we get only one
>>bracket (with n-3 rounds for n players that could easily happen according to the
>>rules), we are in the situation I described.
>>
>>See
>>http://www.fide.com/official/handbook.asp?level=C0401B
>>B.3 is a relative pairing criterium.
>>
>>in C.13 of
>>http://www.fide.com/official/handbook.asp?level=C0401C
>>it is shown under which circumstances the last two score brackets are joined.
>>
>>And in 9.6 of
>>http://www.fide.com/official/handbook.asp?level=C0402B
>>it is described how and in which direction the median score group is extended.
>>
>>If you read carefully, in those pages the swiss system is described twice, and
>>both descriptions are not equivalent. In one of them the score brackets are
>>paired from up to bottom, in that case the C.13 rule is relevant. In the other
>>one the brackets above the median group are paired from up to bottom, then the
>>brackets below the median group are paired from bottom to up, and at the end the
>>median group is paired, then is the 9.6 rule relevant.
>>Anyway, as long as there is a pairing which does not break the absolute pairing
>>criteria, there is a legal pairing. As I said, it can be guaranteed up to n-3
>>rounds.
>>José.
>
>You sound pretty convincing José :) - I stand corrected I guess.
>
>Only thing that might possibly create additional problems for the mathematical
>proof are the colour rules, especially the absolute ones. Three times the same
>colour for a participant is never allowed without exceptions - a problem?
>

Yes, indeed. I stand corrected too, if you are too smart or have nothing useful
to do I think you can create an example in which the absolute color rules
prevent a pairing with n-3 rounds. For a first try I would suggest 8 players, 5
rounds and in the first two rounds white wins all games, or probably in rounds 3
and 4 white wins all games, or something like that.
But that something like that actually happens looks extremely unlikely, if I
were a phyisicist I would say that is despreciable.

>Greetings to Goettingen,
>Peter

Greetings to Berlin,
José.



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