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Subject: Re: Junior5 finds 11...h5

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 22:15:13 12/23/98

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On December 23, 1998 at 18:07:40, Ralph E. Carter wrote:

>On December 23, 1998 at 10:17:10, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On December 23, 1998 at 01:31:12, Ralph E. Carter wrote:
>>
>>>On December 22, 1998 at 23:02:59, Steve Lopez wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 22, 1998 at 20:09:45, Richard Heldmann wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Which PC program recommends ...h5?  Please post the answer.  I'd like to see
>>>>>someone disprove Kasparov.  That should be simple enough, agreed?
>>>>
>>>>OK, Richard, glad to oblige. Junior5 (running as an analysis engine in
>>>>ChessBase7 with 8 MB hash tables) finds 11...h5 as its preferred move in 7:50 on
>>>>my Pentium II.
>>>>
>>>>The silence has been broken by the sound of Garry chomping crow (especially
>>>>since he has stated a preference for Junior5, so I'm sure he can check it for
>>>>himself).
>>>
>>>I am happy to hear about this!
>>>I am sure you are pleased too.
>>>
>>>But the other side in this argument does not eat crow.
>>>There will not be an end, or an admission.
>>>They will find more positions to question.
>>>
>>>It is MOST ironic, and especially satisfying to ME, that JUNIOR is on THIS side
>>>of the argument!!!
>>
>>It might be embarassing (in a way) to Junior's programmer however, since he is
>>a Kasparov "supporter".  However, as you can see, Kasparov's credibility has to
>>be near zero with most everyone now...  every time he makes a claim, or a
>>blanket statement (no program can find this move...) he ends up looking like an
>>idiot yet again...
>
>((That's what I meant by MOST ironic! My posts are often ridiculous, but Junior
>5 speaks with an authority that is unlikely to be challenged in this case!))


You obviously don't know Kasparov very well...  :)

facts mean little when he is talking about deep blue, it seems...



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