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Subject: Re: ICGA and the webcasting of WCCC_2004

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:31:24 07/08/04

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On July 08, 2004 at 04:01:13, Andreas Guettinger wrote:

>On July 07, 2004 at 21:13:54, Will Singleton wrote:
>
>>On July 07, 2004 at 20:42:50, Jeffrey Wadsworth wrote:
>>
>>>On July 07, 2004 at 19:50:24, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have 2 simple suggestions:
>>>>
>>>>1) Automate the reporting of the results somewhat, and make sure someone
>>>>who has time is able to update the result webpages, add proper PGN and such.
>>>>
>>>>2) Add some kind of Java applet that shows the in-progress games
>>>>in a platform independent manner. This should be easy to do and possibly
>>>>software for it is already available as many human tournaments function in
>>>>this manner. (This is IMHO preferable over ICC/FICS because those do need
>>>>extra firewall openings whereas Java can work over WWW HTTP)
>>>>
>>>>Basically the organization of the tournament looks excellent, but the
>>>>reporting on the net could use some small improvement.
>>>>
>>>>I realize the people not being able to use playchess are a minority but
>>>>I feel such an event should try to cater to the computer chess enthousiasts
>>>>as much as possible since they quite obviously have the greatest interest in
>>>>it.
>>>>
>>>>And they're also the most vocal bunch ;-)
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>GCP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>The bottom line:  They want you to use the Playchess software...pretty simple.
>>>Updating the tournament news somewhere else does not get that software on your
>>>system, etc.
>>
>>I agree that's the reason we don't see a Java applet or equivalent on the
>>official site, but it doesn't explain why the results, pgn and pairings cannot
>>be posted in a timely manner.  My goodness, if I were hosting such an event, I
>>would have someone updating the site in near real-time, with all the relevant
>>info along with notes, comments from participants, photos, analysis, all geared
>>to enhance the enjoyment of the event for internet spectators.  Of course, that
>>would take planning and effort.  (This isn't meant to criticize Omid, who is
>>doing a fine job.)  I just can't get over the fact that tremendous effort has
>>been expended in putting this tourney on, apparently a first-class event for the
>>participants, but so little attention paid to the world outside.
>
>Which is quite a pity, because there will be 20 completely happy participants,
>but some thousand very unhappy chess enthusiasts.
>
>regards
>Andy

The _real_ pity here is that this has been repeated year after year, and the
complaints have come in year after year, yet nothing gets done to address it.

That is the thing that makes this so bad.

Screw up once?  Fix it.  But don't screw it up year after year after year, the
same old way.  Surely someone has to "get" that concept?

IE in Paris we had one person with a cell phone to get info out.  Steve at ICD
offered to help with his cell phone bill.  Isn't that the ICGA's job?  To get
the info out in a timely manner?  How embarassing is it to have a commercial
chess business pay someone's cell phone bill to make it possible to find out
what is happening?  :)

Based on this kind of experience, you would think there was no world-wide
internet...





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