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Subject: Re: ICGA and the webcasting of WCCC_2004

Author: Frank Phillips

Date: 11:33:31 07/08/04

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On July 08, 2004 at 13:31:24, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On July 08, 2004 at 04:01:13, Andreas Guettinger wrote:
>
>>On July 07, 2004 at 21:13:54, Will Singleton wrote:
>>
>>>On July 07, 2004 at 20:42:50, Jeffrey Wadsworth wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 07, 2004 at 19:50:24, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I have 2 simple suggestions:
>>>>>
>>>>>1) Automate the reporting of the results somewhat, and make sure someone
>>>>>who has time is able to update the result webpages, add proper PGN and such.
>>>>>
>>>>>2) Add some kind of Java applet that shows the in-progress games
>>>>>in a platform independent manner. This should be easy to do and possibly
>>>>>software for it is already available as many human tournaments function in
>>>>>this manner. (This is IMHO preferable over ICC/FICS because those do need
>>>>>extra firewall openings whereas Java can work over WWW HTTP)
>>>>>
>>>>>Basically the organization of the tournament looks excellent, but the
>>>>>reporting on the net could use some small improvement.
>>>>>
>>>>>I realize the people not being able to use playchess are a minority but
>>>>>I feel such an event should try to cater to the computer chess enthousiasts
>>>>>as much as possible since they quite obviously have the greatest interest in
>>>>>it.
>>>>>
>>>>>And they're also the most vocal bunch ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>GCP
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The bottom line:  They want you to use the Playchess software...pretty simple.
>>>>Updating the tournament news somewhere else does not get that software on your
>>>>system, etc.
>>>
>>>I agree that's the reason we don't see a Java applet or equivalent on the
>>>official site, but it doesn't explain why the results, pgn and pairings cannot
>>>be posted in a timely manner.  My goodness, if I were hosting such an event, I
>>>would have someone updating the site in near real-time, with all the relevant
>>>info along with notes, comments from participants, photos, analysis, all geared
>>>to enhance the enjoyment of the event for internet spectators.  Of course, that
>>>would take planning and effort.  (This isn't meant to criticize Omid, who is
>>>doing a fine job.)  I just can't get over the fact that tremendous effort has
>>>been expended in putting this tourney on, apparently a first-class event for the
>>>participants, but so little attention paid to the world outside.
>>
>>Which is quite a pity, because there will be 20 completely happy participants,
>>but some thousand very unhappy chess enthusiasts.
>>
>>regards
>>Andy
>
>The _real_ pity here is that this has been repeated year after year, and the
>complaints have come in year after year, yet nothing gets done to address it.
>
>That is the thing that makes this so bad.
>
>Screw up once?  Fix it.  But don't screw it up year after year after year, the
>same old way.  Surely someone has to "get" that concept?
>
>IE in Paris we had one person with a cell phone to get info out.  Steve at ICD
>offered to help with his cell phone bill.  Isn't that the ICGA's job?  To get
>the info out in a timely manner?  How embarassing is it to have a commercial
>chess business pay someone's cell phone bill to make it possible to find out
>what is happening?  :)
>
>Based on this kind of experience, you would think there was no world-wide
>internet...

I would like Guy H. to confirm whether it is a 'screw-up'.  (Hence my question
above.).

It could be by design, of course, but I hope not.

Frank



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