Author: Sean Empey
Date: 15:59:23 07/13/04
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On July 13, 2004 at 18:53:56, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >On July 13, 2004 at 18:46:36, Lance Perkins wrote: > >>Nope. A horse race is a competion between different horses "and" different >>jockeys. > >What if some jokies are riding donkies instead of horses? Then Shrek should not have entered Donkey without realizing he will lose. Comparing a donkey to a horse is like comparing chess to chekers. > > > >>You see, they don't swap jockeys later and do another round. Jockeys >>play a great part - they too are sportsmen (like football players). >> >>I'm not really sure how you come up with your analogies. Even if you give humans >>the same time to think in chess, some humans think faster or better than others, >>and make use of time better than others. >> >>Are you proposing that in WCCC, all chess engines should evaluate the same >>number of nodes per move? You see, its not just about the time spent, since some >>engines are compiled with better compilers and will therefore process more nodes >>per given time. >> >>On July 13, 2004 at 18:29:53, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >> >>>On July 13, 2004 at 18:25:34, Lance Perkins wrote: >>> >>>>Indeed. And that is what you see in horse races. Horses have different skills >>>>and run differently depending on the kind of race track. And the jockeys have >>>>different skills. >>> >>>Right, and that competition is by definition a competition between different >>>horses. You won't see some jockies riding horses and others riding donkies, as >>>is the case in WCCC. >>> >>> >>>> >>>>The winner? The best jockey + horse combination. >>>> >>>>Have you seen anyone go to the Kentucky Derby with a Donkey and complain that >>>>its unfair? >>>> >>>>Can I go the tournament with minimal book and complain later that my oponents >>>>have books prepared by GM's. That can't be "computer" chess anymore. That's >>>>human GM chess. >>> >>>In a human tournament, would it be fair to give one participant 2 hours for 60 >>>moves, and the other participant 8 hours for the same number of moves? >>> >>> >>>> >>>>On July 13, 2004 at 18:08:23, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >>>> >>>>>On July 13, 2004 at 17:53:20, Fernando Villegas wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Tha's fallacy, my friend. Programs that use different hardware ARE NOT >>>>>>indifferent programs than are just by chance riding faster horses; they are >>>>>>made to work with this or that hardware, SO to use it is part of the >>>>>>programming. >>>>> >>>>>My program is also made to work with parallel hardware. But as I replied to >>>>>Dann, running a parallel engine on a single processor machine is not much fun... >>>>> >>>>>You can be a great horse rider, but when you are given a donkey, you will most >>>>>probably lose to a much less skilled competitor riding a horse. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>My bst >>>>>>fernando
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