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Subject: Re: How about open weaponry boxing championship?

Author: Sean Empey

Date: 15:59:23 07/13/04

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On July 13, 2004 at 18:53:56, Omid David Tabibi wrote:

>On July 13, 2004 at 18:46:36, Lance Perkins wrote:
>
>>Nope. A horse race is a competion between different horses "and" different
>>jockeys.
>
>What if some jokies are riding donkies instead of horses?


Then Shrek should not have entered Donkey without realizing he will lose.
Comparing a donkey to a horse is like comparing chess to chekers.

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>
>
>>You see, they don't swap jockeys later and do another round. Jockeys
>>play a great part - they too are sportsmen (like football players).
>>
>>I'm not really sure how you come up with your analogies. Even if you give humans
>>the same time to think in chess, some humans think faster or better than others,
>>and make use of time better than others.
>>
>>Are you proposing that in WCCC, all chess engines should evaluate the same
>>number of nodes per move? You see, its not just about the time spent, since some
>>engines are compiled with better compilers and will therefore process more nodes
>>per given time.
>>
>>On July 13, 2004 at 18:29:53, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>
>>>On July 13, 2004 at 18:25:34, Lance Perkins wrote:
>>>
>>>>Indeed. And that is what you see in horse races. Horses have different skills
>>>>and run differently depending on the kind of race track. And the jockeys have
>>>>different skills.
>>>
>>>Right, and that competition is by definition a competition between different
>>>horses. You won't see some jockies riding horses and others riding donkies, as
>>>is the case in WCCC.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>The winner? The best jockey + horse combination.
>>>>
>>>>Have you seen anyone go to the Kentucky Derby with a Donkey and complain that
>>>>its unfair?
>>>>
>>>>Can I go the tournament with minimal book and complain later that my oponents
>>>>have books prepared by GM's. That can't be "computer" chess anymore. That's
>>>>human GM chess.
>>>
>>>In a human tournament, would it be fair to give one participant 2 hours for 60
>>>moves, and the other participant 8 hours for the same number of moves?
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>On July 13, 2004 at 18:08:23, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 13, 2004 at 17:53:20, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Tha's fallacy, my friend. Programs that use different hardware ARE NOT
>>>>>>indifferent programs than  are just by chance riding faster horses; they are
>>>>>>made to work with this or that hardware, SO to use it is part of the
>>>>>>programming.
>>>>>
>>>>>My program is also made to work with parallel hardware. But as I replied to
>>>>>Dann, running a parallel engine on a single processor machine is not much fun...
>>>>>
>>>>>You can be a great horse rider, but when you are given a donkey, you will most
>>>>>probably lose to a much less skilled competitor riding a horse.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>My bst
>>>>>>fernando



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