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Subject: Re: How about open weaponry boxing championship?

Author: Omid David Tabibi

Date: 15:53:56 07/13/04

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On July 13, 2004 at 18:46:36, Lance Perkins wrote:

>Nope. A horse race is a competion between different horses "and" different
>jockeys.

What if some jokies are riding donkies instead of horses?



>You see, they don't swap jockeys later and do another round. Jockeys
>play a great part - they too are sportsmen (like football players).
>
>I'm not really sure how you come up with your analogies. Even if you give humans
>the same time to think in chess, some humans think faster or better than others,
>and make use of time better than others.
>
>Are you proposing that in WCCC, all chess engines should evaluate the same
>number of nodes per move? You see, its not just about the time spent, since some
>engines are compiled with better compilers and will therefore process more nodes
>per given time.
>
>On July 13, 2004 at 18:29:53, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>
>>On July 13, 2004 at 18:25:34, Lance Perkins wrote:
>>
>>>Indeed. And that is what you see in horse races. Horses have different skills
>>>and run differently depending on the kind of race track. And the jockeys have
>>>different skills.
>>
>>Right, and that competition is by definition a competition between different
>>horses. You won't see some jockies riding horses and others riding donkies, as
>>is the case in WCCC.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>The winner? The best jockey + horse combination.
>>>
>>>Have you seen anyone go to the Kentucky Derby with a Donkey and complain that
>>>its unfair?
>>>
>>>Can I go the tournament with minimal book and complain later that my oponents
>>>have books prepared by GM's. That can't be "computer" chess anymore. That's
>>>human GM chess.
>>
>>In a human tournament, would it be fair to give one participant 2 hours for 60
>>moves, and the other participant 8 hours for the same number of moves?
>>
>>
>>>
>>>On July 13, 2004 at 18:08:23, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 13, 2004 at 17:53:20, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Tha's fallacy, my friend. Programs that use different hardware ARE NOT
>>>>>indifferent programs than  are just by chance riding faster horses; they are
>>>>>made to work with this or that hardware, SO to use it is part of the
>>>>>programming.
>>>>
>>>>My program is also made to work with parallel hardware. But as I replied to
>>>>Dann, running a parallel engine on a single processor machine is not much fun...
>>>>
>>>>You can be a great horse rider, but when you are given a donkey, you will most
>>>>probably lose to a much less skilled competitor riding a horse.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>My bst
>>>>>fernando



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