Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 19:05:25 07/14/04
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On July 14, 2004 at 14:40:17, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >On July 14, 2004 at 14:17:33, Matthew Hull wrote: > >>On July 14, 2004 at 13:00:15, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >> >>> >>>>The goal is the best computer chess. You can't have that unless it's open >>>>hardware. It has always been open hardware, >>> >>>You forget WMCCC. >> >> >>No I don't. This is not WMCCC. It's WCCC. The best chess will be played on >>big hardware. That's why it's open hardware. >> >>If you want to argue for inferior chess, then go organize thw World Inferior >>Computer Chess Championship. >> >>Meanwhile, the rest of us want to see the best computer chess the world has to >>offer. We want to see the envelope pushed as far as it can go. >> >> >>The best computer chess in the world is supposed to be seen at the World >>Championship. You can't do that by limiting hardware. >> >>I don't know how many different ways it needs to be said. Your idea is fine >>for some other event that is not the WCCC. > >I did not suggest to abolish the open hardware format to begin with. What I >suggest is to hold two events, WCCC for open hardware, and WMCCC for uniform >hardware. Just the way it used to be. In WCCC you will find the best >engine+hardware combination, and in WMCCC you will find the strongest chess >program. > Absolutely and totally bogus statement. What processor will you pick? I want 64 bits. Others want 32 bits. What about 2 years from now when most processors will have two CPU cores and behave like a dual processor? Do you pick intel, AMD, IBM PPC, Itanium, MIPS, HP-PA, alpha, etc? When you pick one, why? Why would you get to pick the processor _I_ have to run on? Uniform-platform is an interesting test. But it will _not_ find the "strongest chess program". It will find "the strongest chess program on Processor X" just like the WCCC finds the "strongest computer chess player regardless of processor." Don't make silly statements like "you will find the strongest chess program." Non X86 means you exclude X86 asm programs. Or if you choose opteron they run slower than if they had been hand-written for the extra registers. Etc... That statement is just as accurate as the "if he thought he had a chance to win, he would have come." I hope that particular idea is now dead, for example. > > >> >>> >>> >>> >>>>and that's what we all want to >>>>see. We demand the best computer chess that can possibly be played. That's >>>>what we want. If you can't wrap your mind around that, then find another >>>>hobby. >>>>
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