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Subject: Re: How about open weaponry boxing championship?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:18:07 07/17/04

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On July 17, 2004 at 11:40:01, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On July 17, 2004 at 11:04:51, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>That's not my problem.  IE he ran on a 64 bit processor.  So _hardware_
>>advantage is easy to compute.  If he didn't compile it correctly, there's little
>>I can do about that.
>
>I'm not saying it is your problem and I'm not saying it's unfair either.
>That whole discussion doesn't make much sense to me as I see the job of getting
>access to a huge machine as simply part of the contest.
>
>Still, worth noting that Omid has some "easy" ways of getting a big jump in Elo
>for next time, whereas you probably cannot be expected to squeeze that much more
>efficiency out of Crafty's parallel search.
>
>>  But the raw _hardware_ advantage is easy to compute.  Also
>>the 1.4 is wrong, because gcc is worse than microsoft's compiler by at least
>>10%.
>
>I think 1.4 is a rather pessimistic estimate. If you had a good compiler then it
>would probably be closer to 1.5-1.6, so in some sense the 10% has already been
>factored out.

The correct number is around 45%, gcc 32 bit vs gcc 64 bit, or msvc 32 bit vs
msvc 64 bit.  I believe AMD has already published these numbers in fact...

And Microsoft's compiler is at _least_ 10% faster than GCC.  More can be said by
Eugene if he wants...

I was simply pointing out that there was absolutely no way a quad is 4x faster
than a 1-cpu box.  And my quad system was actually running about the same speed
as the quad 2.2ghz box I used at the last CCT event...


>
>But anyway, I consider 10% to be within the error margin with these types of
>ballpark numbers, they tend to vary quite a bit when you measure IIRC.
>
>-S.



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