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Subject: Re: [OT] Development Release: Mandrakelinux 10.1 beta 1 [OT]

Author: Matthew Hull

Date: 14:38:31 08/10/04

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On August 10, 2004 at 16:39:29, Peter Berger wrote:

>On August 10, 2004 at 01:17:55, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On August 09, 2004 at 23:45:28, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>>
>>>Is it really necessary to insult people who have opinion different from yours?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Eugene
>>
>>
>>
>>Where is your sense of humour, Eugene?
>>
>>From time to time the 1% of Linux users I represent have a good laugh at the 95%
>>Windows users you represent.
>>
>>Is this 1% hurting you as much as it hurts Gates and Ballmer? ;-)
>>
>>I understand why THEY are worried. But you?
>>
>>
>>
>>    Christophe
>
>I guess if we really knew what was going on in the basements of most Linux
>users, it would be the Windows users who would have the final laugh.
>
>It is not the windows-bashing that can become annoying, it is the propaganda and
>the misleading information.
>
>My Windows PCs don't crash - never, and I have lots of them (only Fritz will at
>times). They were also pretty easy to install and setup. I admit that I am
>probably more knowledgeable than average PC users when it is about security and
>the like, but where is the fair comparison to the average Joe Linux user who
>somehow managed to install he OS, will of course be logged on as root, with no
>password, all network services running unpatched? Maybe he doesn't exist - OK,
>but then this only means that there just *is* no average Joe linux user.
>
>Whenever I talk with a happy Linux user with a mission I ask him a few basic
>questions on how he does this and that with his PC (concentrating on a few
>issues I had to face when I tried it myself). Once you show that you are not a
>complete ignoramus you will hear different stories - about the two weeks spent
>to get the video card running - the great features of the word processor ( once
>you studied the whole manual for a few weeks) etc.
>
>My favourite still is the one user who wanted to convince me that setting up
>Linux was way easier than Windows, though he unfortunately never got the sound
>to work ( mentioned much later in discussion ;) ) .
>
>While I used to do most of my work on Unix machines including years of system
>administration, and could probably go on for some time on things that are
>superior about it, I never felt fully prepared to deal with all this hazzle at
>home in my spare time, other than for the occasional experiment.
>
>Linux has obviously improved in recent years when it is about setup, and I toy
>with the idea to give it another try, but as long as the Linux users sound like
>missionaries, it is tough to trust them too much when it is about improvements
>made. I am still under the impression that everyone who really managed to reach
>a really workable system with Linux, is soo proud of himself and his
>intelligence, that he has to tell and pray to all the world :)


I think the best thing about Linux is that you have tools aplenty, GRATIS, in
addition to a good office suite (Openoffice), web browser, mail clients, IM
clients, all GRATIS.

How much does a C compiler cost for Windows?  Ouch!

How much for Office?  Ouch squared!

Oh, and now there is a new version...

Oh, now all that old QB code you wrote doesn't work with the new ...

Time to open up your wallet, again.

Ouch!


>
>Sorry for the OT, could't resist for unknown reasons.
>Peter



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