Author: Enrique Irazoqui
Date: 09:22:08 08/11/04
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On August 11, 2004 at 10:42:29, Christophe Theron wrote: >On August 11, 2004 at 03:30:07, Tony Werten wrote: > >>On August 10, 2004 at 23:20:37, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>On August 10, 2004 at 13:12:21, Tony Werten wrote: >>> >>>>On August 10, 2004 at 12:14:32, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 10, 2004 at 09:55:57, Tony Werten wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On August 10, 2004 at 09:01:11, James Swafford wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On August 10, 2004 at 05:12:57, Ernst Walet wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>If you're a man about this you would stop releasing tiger for that buggy >>>>>>>>platform altogether........ >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Believing a product is superior and becoming a martyr for its cause >>>>>>>are two very different things. Not supporting Windows would be >>>>>>>suicide for the Tiger project, and no one would win from it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>It's kind of like freedom of religion. I "know" my beliefs are >>>>>>>correct, but I have to respect your freedom to make the same >>>>>>>choice- I can't force you. I can poke you once in a while and >>>>>>>try to get you to see things from my perspective, but I won't >>>>>>>resort to nailing the doors on your church shut to get you to >>>>>>>come to mine. >>>>>> >>>>>>Yes, but poking him about his church, while at the same time selling things he >>>>>>can use in his church seems a bit "unconvincing" :) >>>>>> >>>>>>Tony >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>To the simple minded, yes. >>>> >>>>He, you're not being nasty to me, just because my word jokes don't hold very >>>>well on translation, are you ? ;) >>>> >>>>Tony >>> >>> >>> >>>Trying to picture me as hypocrite or disturbed by saying that I am promoting the >>>merits of Linux at every occasion while I am selling a Windows version of Tiger >>>is typically the kind of argument a politician would love: no matter how wrong >>>and off the argument is, it looks seducing because it will talk to simple minded >>>people. >>> >>>Hence the "simple minded" in my answer. >>> >>>So I'm not nasty, I'm just telling you what I think about your argument. It's >>>the kind of argument that comes to mind at first thought. I just hope that you >>>are able to have the second thought that sends it where it belongs: to the trash >>>bin. >> >>I'm sorry I offended you, didn't mean to do that. >> >>2 things. >> >>1. My reply was meant as a jokish remark. The poster referenced to the church. I >>know the english term is "religious believes" but I didn't want to say >>"unbelievable" since that seemed to harsh. In dutch the term would be something >>like "religious convincement" so I choose "unconvincing" wich turned out to be >>just as bad :( >> >>2. I know (not personnal but from what other people write) you do a good job >>supporting Tiger for windows, wich is what matters, not wether you would rather >>be supporting it on a different OS. >>The remark was at no point personally meant at you but to people selling you >>windows software and then when it doesn't work, complain: It's not my software >>that is wrong, it's the operating system. Well, can be, but you are selling it. >> >>But ( while not being personal at all ), your remarks against windows don't seem >>to be for "advanced minded" either, and people can be offended by it (basicly >>being called stupid for using it). They respond by equally simple minded >>remarks, and then you suddenly take it personal. You could have seen this >>coming. ( Dutch saying: he who sows wind, will harvest storms) >> >>All in all, my appoligies, since my words should have been more clearly adresses >>to certain "Windows sucks, Linux great" callers, rather than suggest they were >>meant to you. >> >>Tony > > > >No problem Tony. > >I did not think I was offending Windows users. I just wanted to bring to their >attention the fact that the system they use is probably not the system they >would use if they had been given more information about what's out there, and if >they had been given the opportunity to CHOOSE the OS of their computer. > >Eventually it looks like a form of Stockholm syndrom It may be a more simple case of ignorance, like my own. I just don't know the shortcomings of Windows. I use it and I never think of it. I don't doubt there are shortcomings, but it just happens that I don't know them, and I assume most people don't either. There you have a happy idiot. There is also the issue of compatibility with programs and drivers. For instance, a few days ago I had to install a driver for a Lacie screen calibrator: I connected the calibrator with its USB cable, I read a message asking me to insert a CD, I did and it all worked fine. Would I have been equally succesful if I were using LInux instead of Windows? Don't forget that I don't want to fiddle with operating systems, just to use that calibrator. Enrique >: people have been somehow >forced to use Windows, have to suffer from its shortcomings every day (and have >been for the past 15 years), but nevertheless they will defend this product if >someone attacks it. > >I will think about it. > > > > Christophe > > > > >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Christophe >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Christophe
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