Author: Sune Fischer
Date: 07:47:02 09/12/04
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On September 12, 2004 at 10:18:47, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>These "matches" don't show _nearly_ as much as many believe... >> >>They show me what I want to know, ie. how good is Fritz _without_ the killer >>book from chessbase? > >Why does it matter? I don't understand why this is such a big deal, a chess package consists of several things like GUI/eyecandy, database/books, engine, server account etc. To some the database facilities might be very important while the look and feel of the GUI is not so important, to some the book might be important and to others the engine is the crucial component. I don't believe it's just one big fuzzy thing that can't be seperated. >Why does it matter how Fritz does with a bad book? Suppose we gave the Fritz book to a strong amateur engine, Aristarch for instance and in a very long match it beated Fritz. That would obviously be interest for several reasons. >No endgame tables? There is no room for endgame tables on his laptop. >Impossibly short time controls? He needs to analyse 50000 games. > No pondering? He has a single CPU machine. > No learning? He wants reproducable results. >Why not test with "no code" as well??? He already knows how strong that would play. >>Suppose the book is worth 100 Elo and Fritz is the only one who is allowed to >>use that book, now obviously Fritz will look 100 Elo stronger in all matches >>than it really is, and obviously these 100 Elo are worth nothing to a >>correspondence player who only needs the engine for analysis. > >Au Contrare, Fritz will be giving _good_ opening advice, for one thing... I think the GUI+book will be doing that. >And if you expect _any_ program to give good advice on oddball openings, good >luck... I expect a program do the best it can, even in objectively lost situations. There is honour in fighting for a draw as well :) -S.
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