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Subject: Re: The Null Move Killer

Author: Stuart Cracraft

Date: 09:20:18 10/01/04

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On October 01, 2004 at 08:58:58, Uri Blass wrote:

>On October 01, 2004 at 08:00:27, Ross Boyd wrote:
>
>>On October 01, 2004 at 06:46:00, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On October 01, 2004 at 04:23:24, Ross Boyd wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 01, 2004 at 02:27:59, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 30, 2004 at 19:40:30, Ross Boyd wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>><snipped>
>>>>>>BTW, I'd suggest toning down your recapture extensions somewhat. I don't allow
>>>>>>recap extensions unless they occur in the last 3 ply of the main search. The
>>>>>>point is there is no point in extending recaps at shallow depths because the
>>>>>>tree simply explodes. You may have been using over-aggressive recap extensions
>>>>>>to 'compensate' for the lack of other key extensions.
>>>>>
>>>>>It seems to me that you mean to something else.
>>>>>
>>>>>You say that there is no point in extending recaps at shallow depth but based on
>>>>>your words I understand that you allow recapture extensions only at shallow
>>>>>depth(only in the last 3 plies of the main search).
>>>>>
>>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>
>>>I see no response in your reply.
>>>
>>>I will explain again the problem.
>>>Here is again your sentence
>>>"I don't allow
>>>recap extensions unless they occur in the last 3 ply of the main search."
>>>
>>>unless is if not
>>>
>>>You do not allow recapture extensions if they do not occur in the last 3 plies.
>>>In other words you allow recapture extensions only in the last 3 plies and the
>>>last 3 plies are shallow depth depth<=3 based on my understanding.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>Hi Uri,
>>
>>This is strange. I mistakenly hit enter before replying, hence the blank reply.
>>And then I replied again but somehow the reply is not displayed.
>>
>>Anyway, you are right, I meant to say that extending recaps is useful only near
>>the tips ie. last 3 ply. Close to the root recapture extensions expand the tree
>>for no good reason. That's all I was trying to say.
>>
>>You have a sharp eye for detail. :-)
>>
>>Best wishes,
>>
>>Ross
>
>I do not agree about it and there is a good reason to extend recaptures near the
>root when you often search logical lines and not near the leaves when you more
>often have illogical lines so there is a good logical reason to ti extend
>recaptures near the root.
>
>recaptures also simplify the position so you may be able to search to depth 9
>after recapture faster than many searchs that you do to depth 8 after quiet
>moves when you will not be able to search to depth 2 after recapture faster than
>searching to depth 1 after quiet moves.
>
>Uri

Then Uri do you suggest to recapture only if depth > N and not search
recapture if depth <= N or won't you go that far?

What does movei do and why do you call it movei? A Move Instruction?

Stuart



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