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Subject: Re: Even Deeper Blue could have performed Badly against them!

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 12:22:12 10/12/04

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On October 12, 2004 at 15:11:27, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On October 12, 2004 at 13:11:27, Graham Laight wrote:
>
>>On October 12, 2004 at 13:07:22, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>
>>>On October 12, 2004 at 10:28:16, Graham Laight wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hydra seems to be a god-like system in its ability to pick out the profoundly
>>>>brilliant move. Is it available to play against online anywhere?  If ever there
>>>>was a justification for charging a fee for a game of chess, then Hydra has it in
>>>>spades! In competition after competition, it just keeps on punching in those
>>>>brilliant performances.
>>>>
>>>>We have also known for many years that Fritz is outstanding - Franz and
>>>>Mattheius (sp?) have long had a subliminally fast system - but for the past
>>>>several years, they've also had a strategic system, with quite outstanding
>>>>positioning skills. For them to equal Hydra's Bilbao score with only a 1.9 GHz
>>>>processor represents consolidation of their position at the top of the
>>>>programmers' tree.
>>>>
>>>>Then we have Junior - which flopped. What was it doing in the computer team? It
>>>>was the only computer to get a negative score against the humans - and was well
>>>>short of what its team-mates achieved (see
>>>>http://www.ajedrezbilbao.com/cResultadosEN.htm).
>>>>
>>>>How does one explain such a poor performance by Junior, which had massively
>>>>superior hardware to Fritz?  Should we ask the Junior programmers to forward
>>>>their program to to Franz Morsch for advice and improvement?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Reading comments like yours, I come to the conclusion that an Introduction to
>>>Statistics course should be made mandatory as a prerequisite for joining CCC...
>>
>>I obtained a university qualification in statistics 20 years ago (I did an
>>ancillary in statistics as part of my computing degree).
>>
>>-g
>
>You probably need a refresher course.  :)
>
>I just picked four pennies out of my pocket and flipped each of them 4 times.
>Know what I found?  One penny that will _only_ produce heads.  It produced four
>heads in a row, and that is _clearly_ enough samples to say how it will do for
>longer tests, right?  :)
>
>3 draws and a loss against GM players is _not_ a bad result.  If you think it
>is, you have a highly exaggerated opinion of how strong computers really are.
>Hint:  "think lower".
>
>based on that at least 1/2 of the GM players that enter tournaments produce very
>"poor" results...

Yes I believe that his expectation is too high, even Deeper Blue could have
performed as bad as Deep Junior did :-)

Jorge



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