Author: Uri Blass
Date: 10:22:40 10/13/04
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On October 13, 2004 at 11:44:32, Peter Skinner wrote: >On October 13, 2004 at 10:58:41, Graham Laight wrote: > >>So - the human players at Bilbao (Ruslan Ponomariov, Véselin Topálov and Sergey >>Karjakin) were simply not sufficiently well motivated, then? >> >>-g > >Frankly looking at the way the humans played, there was certainly room for vast >improvement. They played the computers as if they were playing humans. That is >the wrong thing to do. > >If you look at most games, they were of high "tactic" play. This is _exactly_ >the strength of the computers. I do not agree but maybe we have different definition of tactics. What is tactic? I define tactic to be some combination that wins material. Do computers win because they are better in finding these combinations? I do not think that it is their main strength. Their main strength is that they see deeper and it allows them to play better positional moves. Give computers to play some random not losing material move when they verify by search that the move does not lose material and they will not win even against me because they will not get positions when they will have combination to win material after I get a positional advantage. In the one game where the human played >positionally, he made the computer look like a complete patzer. It was >unfortunate that it was Junior, but it could have _easily_ been any other >program there. > >Put Anand in there instead of Topalov, and the results would have been much >different. The humans that played are not experienced computer players. I don't >even think one of them has attended an AEGEON event (I could be wrong about >this). > >In the Karjakin - Junior game, Karjakin played _excellent_ anti-computer chess. > >On ICC there are a few GM's that in longer games, just make the machines look >stupid. It is almost insane how easily they win. There is also an IM on ICC >named IgorIvanov. He plays my computer all the time (Shredder 8), and even in a >blitz game (5 3), he can win _easily_. > >Peter Remember that there is a difference between playing against an available program and playing against private version of the program when the human has no access to the program. Uri
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