Author: Uri Blass
Date: 15:38:40 10/20/04
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On October 20, 2004 at 18:36:23, George Tsavdaris wrote: >On October 20, 2004 at 14:50:53, Kurt Utzinger wrote: > >>On October 20, 2004 at 14:23:48, George Tsavdaris wrote: >> >>>On October 20, 2004 at 13:37:52, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >>> >>>>On October 20, 2004 at 11:08:45, emerson tan wrote: >>>> >>>>>Who are the players of a team you will choose that will play against the team of >>>>>computers consist of hydra, shredder, fritz, junior. hiarcs, rebel and chess >>>>>tiger? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I would choose, kramnik, leko, anand, karpov, seirawan, ulf andersson and im >>>>>still looking for the 7th player. I choose them because of their style that >>>>>computers will have a hard time. karpov, seirawan and ulf andersson are "old" >>>>>and they may easily get a blunder and lose energy, that's the drawback. Maybe >>>>>bareev, dreev, gelfand who is solid, vallejo pons, very solid, kasparov cannot >>>>>win against him. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Who are the other players you would nominate? >>>> >>>> >>>> Who is still interested in such matches? >>> >>>Me. But why do you say that? Because humans play with the "wrong way" or because >>>the inevitable loss of human is coming with a huge speed? >> >> >> Hi George >> I pressed too fast the sent button -:) >> But what I wanted to say is that I am not >> interested in further matches unless top >> GM's have learnt how to play vs computer >> programs. I have pity on GM's not doing >> this way as too much respectless people >> are loughing at the unlucky GM's who of >> course do understand chess many times better >> than any computer program. It's still my opinion >> that computers would hardly ever win a game >> (even vs 2200 Elo players) if humans would >> follow a do-nothing-but-do-it-well-strategy. > > I believe that if players (GM's or IM's) start to play with your >"do-nothing-but-do-it-well" strategy will indeed have BETTER results but not so >much as you think. If you put a strong GM to play against a top engine running >on a top quad then nothing can prevent his loss(with the exception of the top >5-6 top human players), and if he adopts your strategy the only thing he would >gain is having a big number of draws with white and few loses and wins and also >with black would have a bigger number of draws than before but all the other >loses. > So it would have with black and white a negative record by playing passive. Kurt did not suggest to play passive. Uri
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