Author: Uri Blass
Date: 16:30:05 10/20/04
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On October 20, 2004 at 18:58:55, odell jones wrote: >On October 20, 2004 at 18:46:38, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On October 20, 2004 at 14:50:53, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >> >>>On October 20, 2004 at 14:23:48, George Tsavdaris wrote: >>> >>>>On October 20, 2004 at 13:37:52, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >>>> >>>>>On October 20, 2004 at 11:08:45, emerson tan wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Who are the players of a team you will choose that will play against the team of >>>>>>computers consist of hydra, shredder, fritz, junior. hiarcs, rebel and chess >>>>>>tiger? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I would choose, kramnik, leko, anand, karpov, seirawan, ulf andersson and im >>>>>>still looking for the 7th player. I choose them because of their style that >>>>>>computers will have a hard time. karpov, seirawan and ulf andersson are "old" >>>>>>and they may easily get a blunder and lose energy, that's the drawback. Maybe >>>>>>bareev, dreev, gelfand who is solid, vallejo pons, very solid, kasparov cannot >>>>>>win against him. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Who are the other players you would nominate? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Who is still interested in such matches? >>>> >>>>Me. But why do you say that? Because humans play with the "wrong way" or because >>>>the inevitable loss of human is coming with a huge speed? >>> >>> >>> Hi George >>> I pressed too fast the sent button -:) >>> But what I wanted to say is that I am not >>> interested in further matches unless top >>> GM's have learnt how to play vs computer >>> programs. I have pity on GM's not doing >>> this way as too much respectless people >>> are loughing at the unlucky GM's who of >>> course do understand chess many times better >>> than any computer program. >> >>Of course machines by definition understand nothing and only calculate and chess >>is about playing and not about understanding. >> >> It's still my opinion >>> that computers would hardly ever win a game >>> (even vs 2200 Elo players) if humans would >>> follow a do-nothing-but-do-it-well-strategy. >>> Kurt >> >>I do not know. >>I guess that we need to see more games of arnold hasidovsky against computers >>to find if you are correct(he drew 3 programs in the israeli league with that >>technique but today software and hardware is better and 3 games are not enough >>games to get conclusions. >> >> >>Note that I asked to delete the replyb to your post in >>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?392564 and I ask people not to >>reply to that nonsense. >> >>Uri > >I don't think there is anything i said that should be censored Uri, if my post >is censored so should yours, since the tone and language of your post is >similiar to mine, I expressed frustration and so did you, I think there should >be a limit to requests for censorship, you can't regulate someone for being >human. All communication is not rosy and dandy, sometimes humans use harsh tones >when they strongly disagree. The moderators can delete also http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?392574 and the posts after it in this thread so nobody will know about which person I was talking except people who read this thread in the wrong time. You can ask the moderators to do it and I have no objection to it. Note also that there is a difference between attacking people who did personal attack and attacking people by putting things in their mouse. Kurt never claimed the things that you put in his mouse in the link that I posted. Uri
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