Author: odell jones
Date: 15:58:55 10/20/04
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On October 20, 2004 at 18:46:38, Uri Blass wrote: >On October 20, 2004 at 14:50:53, Kurt Utzinger wrote: > >>On October 20, 2004 at 14:23:48, George Tsavdaris wrote: >> >>>On October 20, 2004 at 13:37:52, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >>> >>>>On October 20, 2004 at 11:08:45, emerson tan wrote: >>>> >>>>>Who are the players of a team you will choose that will play against the team of >>>>>computers consist of hydra, shredder, fritz, junior. hiarcs, rebel and chess >>>>>tiger? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I would choose, kramnik, leko, anand, karpov, seirawan, ulf andersson and im >>>>>still looking for the 7th player. I choose them because of their style that >>>>>computers will have a hard time. karpov, seirawan and ulf andersson are "old" >>>>>and they may easily get a blunder and lose energy, that's the drawback. Maybe >>>>>bareev, dreev, gelfand who is solid, vallejo pons, very solid, kasparov cannot >>>>>win against him. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Who are the other players you would nominate? >>>> >>>> >>>> Who is still interested in such matches? >>> >>>Me. But why do you say that? Because humans play with the "wrong way" or because >>>the inevitable loss of human is coming with a huge speed? >> >> >> Hi George >> I pressed too fast the sent button -:) >> But what I wanted to say is that I am not >> interested in further matches unless top >> GM's have learnt how to play vs computer >> programs. I have pity on GM's not doing >> this way as too much respectless people >> are loughing at the unlucky GM's who of >> course do understand chess many times better >> than any computer program. > >Of course machines by definition understand nothing and only calculate and chess >is about playing and not about understanding. > > It's still my opinion >> that computers would hardly ever win a game >> (even vs 2200 Elo players) if humans would >> follow a do-nothing-but-do-it-well-strategy. >> Kurt > >I do not know. >I guess that we need to see more games of arnold hasidovsky against computers >to find if you are correct(he drew 3 programs in the israeli league with that >technique but today software and hardware is better and 3 games are not enough >games to get conclusions. > > >Note that I asked to delete the replyb to your post in >http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?392564 and I ask people not to >reply to that nonsense. > >Uri I don't think there is anything i said that should be censored Uri, if my post is censored so should yours, since the tone and language of your post is similiar to mine, I expressed frustration and so did you, I think there should be a limit to requests for censorship, you can't regulate someone for being human. All communication is not rosy and dandy, sometimes humans use harsh tones when they strongly disagree.
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