Author: Mike Byrne
Date: 17:19:43 10/20/04
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On October 20, 2004 at 18:58:55, odell jones wrote:
>On October 20, 2004 at 18:46:38, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On October 20, 2004 at 14:50:53, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>
>>>On October 20, 2004 at 14:23:48, George Tsavdaris wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 20, 2004 at 13:37:52, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On October 20, 2004 at 11:08:45, emerson tan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Who are the players of a team you will choose that will play against the team of
>>>>>>computers consist of hydra, shredder, fritz, junior. hiarcs, rebel and chess
>>>>>>tiger?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I would choose, kramnik, leko, anand, karpov, seirawan, ulf andersson and im
>>>>>>still looking for the 7th player. I choose them because of their style that
>>>>>>computers will have a hard time. karpov, seirawan and ulf andersson are "old"
>>>>>>and they may easily get a blunder and lose energy, that's the drawback. Maybe
>>>>>>bareev, dreev, gelfand who is solid, vallejo pons, very solid, kasparov cannot
>>>>>>win against him.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Who are the other players you would nominate?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Who is still interested in such matches?
>>>>
>>>>Me. But why do you say that? Because humans play with the "wrong way" or because
>>>>the inevitable loss of human is coming with a huge speed?
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi George
>>> I pressed too fast the sent button -:)
>>> But what I wanted to say is that I am not
>>> interested in further matches unless top
>>> GM's have learnt how to play vs computer
>>> programs. I have pity on GM's not doing
>>> this way as too much respectless people
>>> are loughing at the unlucky GM's who of
>>> course do understand chess many times better
>>> than any computer program.
>>
>>Of course machines by definition understand nothing and only calculate and chess
>>is about playing and not about understanding.
>>
>> It's still my opinion
>>> that computers would hardly ever win a game
>>> (even vs 2200 Elo players) if humans would
>>> follow a do-nothing-but-do-it-well-strategy.
>>> Kurt
>>
>>I do not know.
>>I guess that we need to see more games of arnold hasidovsky against computers
>>to find if you are correct(he drew 3 programs in the israeli league with that
>>technique but today software and hardware is better and 3 games are not enough
>>games to get conclusions.
>>
>>
>>Note that I asked to delete the replyb to your post in
>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?392564 and I ask people not to
>>reply to that nonsense.
>>
>>Uri
>
>I don't think there is anything i said that should be censored Uri, if my post
>is censored so should yours, since the tone and language of your post is
>similiar to mine, I expressed frustration and so did you, I think there should
>be a limit to requests for censorship, you can't regulate someone for being
>human. All communication is not rosy and dandy, sometimes humans use harsh tones
>when they strongly disagree.
Odell,
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