Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 22:28:00 12/11/04
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On December 11, 2004 at 23:18:47, Anthony Cozzie wrote: >On December 11, 2004 at 22:55:45, Peter Skinner wrote: > >>On December 11, 2004 at 21:50:46, James Swafford wrote: >> >>>On December 11, 2004 at 20:42:21, Anthony Cozzie wrote: >>> >>>>Not on this front. I was just about to post something myself, actually. >>>> >>>>anthony >>> >>>Seems Volker is MIA. It's time to move one and find another >>>organizer. How about you Anthony? >>> >>>The most difficult tasks will be pinning down a date and time >>>control everyone can live with. You could draft someone on >>>ICC to be the TD, put up a simple website with the latest >>>info, and maybe even get a commentator. >>> >>>It's a lot of work, but if you really want to get "the stupid >>>tournament scheduled" so you can get your sponsor, then how about >>>it? :) >>> >>>-- >>>James >> >>I already stated I would be willing to do it. >> >>I have everything needed. Swiss Perfect, account on ICC, website. >> >>February 19-20 would be a fine time. >> >>Time control: 45/10 >>Rounds: 7 >> >>In the event of a tie break: >>2 games at the same time with alternating color. >> >>If both programs are still tied after the breaker games then: >>30/0 games with alternating colors until a program wins. >> >>If that is not agreed to, then Buchholtz scoring would be fine as well. We could >>use the rankings from the last tournament for seedings. Or even the last 3 >>averaged out for seedings. >> >>As before, all programs must be able to kibitz their evaluation during games. >> >>That is just for starts and just off the top of my head *rolls eyes* :) >> >>Peter > >I think it would be pretty hard for me to TD & compete at the same time, so if >you want to do it, I'm all for it, although I don't mind helping out a bit here >and there if you want it. The long and the short of this post being that I'll >vote for a Skinner-run CCT. 7 rounds actually might be a good idea, as the >5-round day last year was pretty grueling. > >anthony feb 19 & 20 is a few days before start of paderborn 2005 or during paderborn 2005. 30 10 is not a serious level for a tournament. 7 rounds is too little by any Hyatt standard even. He lobbied for years to get the world champs more rounds. It's 11 rounds now. you can very relaxed do 3 games of 90 0 in 1 day especially because it's unattended and because programs must kibitz. 45 10 is already pretty quick level to be taken serious and you can do easily 5 rounds a day with it. 7 rounds is too little by any means to determine a winner in a field of probably 50 programs. Someone can get a winner without playing a single serious contender. If you calculate the total cpu time that you get at 30 10 on average knowing the average computergame is pretty long now. At least 60 moves, where a year or 10 ago they didnt even last on average 40 moves. In world champs 1999 at a quad xeon 500Mhz, the chessbase programs set the standard of level. Of course there was several supercomputers joining there. example junior had quad xeon 500Mhz and the level was 3 minutes a move. 180s * 2Ghz = 360 Ghz-seconds. At 30 10 at a modern hardware, and i guess the average this tournament will be a single cpu A64 2.2Ghz. 30 10 is roughly on average 35 seconds a move. 35 * 2.2Ghz = 77Ghz-seconds. So majority of programs will be effectively 5 times slower than hardware dated 1999 got in world champs 1999. That effectively renders the CCT to an absolute amateurish event without any publicity.
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