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Subject: Re: icc games analysis

Author: blass uri

Date: 16:15:03 01/22/99

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On January 22, 1999 at 17:18:01, KarinsDad wrote:

>On January 22, 1999 at 16:48:57, Dan Kiski wrote:
>
>>On January 22, 1999 at 16:13:14, KarinsDad wrote:
>>
>>>One thing I am unclear on.
>>>
>>>Was the fictionally named BillClinton playing against computers in some of these
>>>games. For example:
>>>
>>>Hossa in games 2, 6, 7 and 8
>>>GODMODE in games 9 and 10
>>>TayxBot in games 19 and 20
>>>
>>>These opponents took 0 seconds per move for many moves, so they appeared to be
>>>computers. Is there a lag problem which would cause a mis-report of 0 seconds? I
>>>do not know of one.
>>>
>>>Amateur in game 3 took 1 second per move for many moves. It appeared to be a
>>>computer taking a full second per move, but if so, why did it need to in the
>>>opening (unless it had no opening book). A human should have taken at least 2
>>>seconds on some of the moves. This was somewhat strange.
>>>
>>>KarinsDad
>>
>>I find it totally opposite, whenever I play a 2 or 3 minute game I will make
>>opening moves as quick as possible sometimes 8 moves in 0 seconds, so as to save
>>time for the middle and endgame. I find much mose suspicious people taking 4 or
>>5 seconds on opening moves. Either way either could be a computer one with a
>>direct connection the other toggling back and forth.
>
>Yes, both of these possibilities had occurred to me before I made the post, but
>I never seem to be able to implement the consecutive 0 seconds mode in practice.
>I guess it is easy for those with strong opening knowledge and games for two
>such opponents to stay within mainline book for quite some time. I haven't
>analyzed these particular games in detail yet to determine whether that is the
>case (my openings are fairly bad, so I can never tell just looking at the PGN).
>
>For me, even in openings I know well, if my opponent is taking 3 to 5 seconds
>per move in the opening and he has 3 or more good replies to my move, I can
>NEVER seem to use up only 0 seconds on fics (on most any move). Maybe it is
>different at ICC. This is probably why I loss on time so often at blitz.
>
>Amateur made 24 consecutive moves in game 3 at 1 second per move. That seems
>strange. The consecutive number of moves is large and the time is always the
>same, but not once 0 or 2.
>
>Hossa made 14 consecutive 0 second moves in game 6.
>Hossa made 18 consecutive 0 second moves in game 7.
>Hossa made 12 consecutive 0 second moves in game 8.
>
>Again, I guess an IM could do this, but 18 at 0 seems like you would REALLY know
>that opening cold

I do not understand how to do 18 consecutive moves in 0 seconds even if I realy
know all the moves before the game.
If I assume that I need only 0.1 second for a move then I use 1.8  seconds for
18 consecutive moves and using only 0.1 second for a move seems impossible to
me.

Uri






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