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Subject: Re: Email Fraud

Author: Don Dailey

Date: 19:36:50 01/22/99

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On January 22, 1999 at 15:00:04, KarinsDad wrote:

>On January 22, 1999 at 14:45:39, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On January 22, 1999 at 08:08:07, Steffen Jakob wrote:
>>
>>>On January 22, 1999 at 02:15:59, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 21, 1999 at 15:16:37, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>
>>>[...]
>>>
>>>>Fake email address in what sense?  You can't get a password without having a
>>>>real email address, since the password is sent to the email address.
>>>
>>>I think Dan meant those Email accounts which you can get free from several
>>>public services (e.g. gmx, bigfoot, ...).
>>That is one issue.  It would not be a problem if the services were not abused to
>>allow hanky-panky.  But they are sometimes.  Another is that people can get an
>>account, then delete the email account used to get access and continue to post.
>>I have had emails bounce before, trying to send an email to the originator of a
>>message.
>
>This problem is easier to resolve though.
>
>Once a month or so, have CCC send an Email to everyone. If an Email bounces, try
>it again a day later or so and if it still bounces, disable the account. You
>could even do this at random times so that people wouldn't know that it occurs
>at the end of the month, to get new Email and CCC accounts at the beginning of
>the month. If anyone accidentally got caught with a problem such as their ISP
>was down for a few days and couldn't get back in, they could always Email CCC
>that they cannot get back in and why their Email was disabled. I think the
>frequency of problems of this type is low enough that the solution would be
>fine.
>
>Some ISPs give out free accounts for 30 days or so, so you couldn't eliminate
>the problem completely. You could only attempt to minimize it.
>
>This solution could also be used to eventually clean up the server of obsolete
>accounts.
>
>You could also state right up front that the free Email accounts that are abused
>will invalidate that service for everyone (such as if someone uses hotmail.com
>to cause problems, all free hotmail.com accounts are busted). This may prevent a
>few non-paying Email contributors from getting access here, but for those of us
>who do pay an ISP (which is probably a high percentage), it would minimize these
>types of abuse problems here (such as Sean's 91+ accounts).
>
>Do these solutions seem reasonable?
>
>KarinsDad

I think your idea is quite good.   I'm not sure I like the idea
about disabling a whol provider however since this could prevent
us from getting a good member and would prevent them from getting
the benefit of our group.

- Don



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