Author: Evgeny Shu
Date: 09:32:43 01/28/05
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On January 28, 2005 at 11:48:02, Stefan Meyer-Kahlen wrote: >On January 28, 2005 at 09:31:24, Harald Faber wrote: > >>On January 28, 2005 at 09:11:21, Stefan Meyer-Kahlen wrote: >> >>>On January 28, 2005 at 08:59:57, Harald Faber wrote: >>> >>>>Don't get me wrong. Except Genius 3 -> 4 -> 5 -> 6 -> 7 I assume that EVERY >>>>(commercial) program improved from version to version. I only see problems in >>>>measuring. I am sure that Shredder 8 is stronger than only one point compared >>>>with Shredder 7.04. But neither can or would I say any number - that would be >>>>guessing only - nor do I have any idea in which area this number lies nor how to >>>>"really" measure it. >>> >>> >>>I am also sure that Shredder 8 is significantly stronger than Shredder 7.04, but >>>hearing this from me makes it hard to believe for many people. >> >> >>Well, hearing this from me should then be more objective and "trustworthy" for >>them, although I can hear them ask "Where is your proof?" but I have no answer >>like "From x000 games". This is subjective and only based on several impressions >>I got from games, positions, main lines and evaluations. > > >I have played more than 1300 games with each :-) > > >>>>>Shredder9 will be out very soon and you will get many results of it from >>>>>independent testers quickly. You can chose which one to trust >>>> >>>>This is what I always do. ;) >>>> >>>> >>>>>and if you like what you hear. >>>> >>>>Basically this depends on the results. ;) >>> >>> >>>For me another good reason to get Shredder 9 would be the new improved analysis >>>feature making backwards analysis much more effective. >>> >>>Stefan >> >> >>Can you explain this a bit more detailed? Or give a link where to find more >>about how this feature has been improved? > > >When you analyse a game and move forward and backward in the lines, Shredder >will remember and combine the already seen lines much better than before. This >is basically all. The result is that it is now very easy to analyse with >Shredder, most of the time you just have to move forward the suggested line >until Shredder can see clearer in the position. Then go backwards again until >Shredder is suggesting a different move somewhere. Now follow this line and >proceed with the above until you have reached the root again. While analysing with shredder 8 I sometimes had some strange lines (like give up Q) after the key move , especially after move 3-4 in the line it shows .. Is this fixed in the new version ? Thanks > >This new feature will also be included in the new Shredder Classic 1.2 engine so >you can try it there for 30 days. > > >>BTW you do not need to convince me to buy Shredder 9, it is on my shopping list >>for some months. ;) > > >Good :-) > > >>Ah one final question: >>Did you change the copy protection for Shredder 9/classic/UCI? The former >>versions made a lot of trouble in my DVD drive in my Toshiba notebook, the >>original CD was hardly recognized for the copy protection check. > > >The protection of the Chessbase version is the same, but probably a newer >version. The protection of the UCI version is your personal license code you >will receive as this version comes without CD. > >Stefan
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