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Subject: Re: Stronger

Author: Stefan Meyer-Kahlen

Date: 08:48:02 01/28/05

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On January 28, 2005 at 09:31:24, Harald Faber wrote:

>On January 28, 2005 at 09:11:21, Stefan Meyer-Kahlen wrote:
>
>>On January 28, 2005 at 08:59:57, Harald Faber wrote:
>>
>>>Don't get me wrong. Except Genius 3 -> 4 -> 5 -> 6 -> 7 I assume that EVERY
>>>(commercial) program improved from version to version. I only see problems in
>>>measuring. I am sure that Shredder 8 is stronger than only one point compared
>>>with Shredder 7.04. But neither can or would I say any number - that would be
>>>guessing only - nor do I have any idea in which area this number lies nor how to
>>>"really" measure it.
>>
>>
>>I am also sure that Shredder 8 is significantly stronger than Shredder 7.04, but
>>hearing this from me makes it hard to believe for many people.
>
>
>Well, hearing this from me should then be more objective and "trustworthy" for
>them, although I can hear them ask "Where is your proof?" but I have no answer
>like "From x000 games". This is subjective and only based on several impressions
>I got from games, positions, main lines and evaluations.


I have played more than 1300 games with each :-)


>>>>Shredder9 will be out very soon and you will get many results of it from
>>>>independent testers quickly. You can chose which one to trust
>>>
>>>This is what I always do. ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>>and if you like what you hear.
>>>
>>>Basically this depends on the results. ;)
>>
>>
>>For me another good reason to get Shredder 9 would be the new improved analysis
>>feature making backwards analysis much more effective.
>>
>>Stefan
>
>
>Can you explain this a bit more detailed? Or give a link where to find more
>about how this feature has been improved?


When you analyse a game and move forward and backward in the lines, Shredder
will remember and combine the already seen lines much better than before. This
is basically all. The result is that it is now very easy to analyse with
Shredder, most of the time you just have to move forward the suggested line
until Shredder can see clearer in the position. Then go backwards again until
Shredder is suggesting a different move somewhere. Now follow this line and
proceed with the above until you have reached the root again.

This new feature will also be included in the new Shredder Classic 1.2 engine so
you can try it there for 30 days.


>BTW you do not need to convince me to buy Shredder 9, it is on my shopping list
>for some months. ;)


Good :-)


>Ah one final question:
>Did you change the copy protection for Shredder 9/classic/UCI? The former
>versions made a lot of trouble in my DVD drive in my Toshiba notebook, the
>original CD was hardly recognized for the copy protection check.


The protection of the Chessbase version is the same, but probably a newer
version. The protection of the UCI version is your personal license code you
will receive as this version comes without CD.

Stefan



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