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Subject: Re: Shredder 9 worsenings over Shredder 8

Author: Sandro Necchi

Date: 21:35:04 01/28/05

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On January 28, 2005 at 19:24:50, Harald Faber wrote:

>On January 28, 2005 at 14:20:00, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>
>>On January 28, 2005 at 02:36:23, Harald Faber wrote:
>>
>>>How many ELOs did you say is Shredder 8 stronger than 7.04? How many ELOs can we
>>>see for real (SSDF)? ;)
>>
>>Well, you need to be precise before making any critic:
>>
>>SSDF is testing Shredder 8 CB and Shredder 7.04 UCI
>>
>>1. Shredder 8 CB is using CB interface, which slow down the program a little
>>cvompared to UCI and has a different learning feature too
>>2. The opening book has 2 reading mode in CB version as the tournament one is
>>the std. book selection of UCI gui. This means that a wider range openings/moves
>>are selected in this mode, so moves which are not really strong are played too
>>reducing the strenght by some points.
>
>
>Of course I know that, therefore the smiley. But some newbies might not get this
>information from the SSDF list only.

Yes, this is why I replied.

>
>
>>SSDF did not test Shredder 8 UCI, even if we asked, so it is not my fault if
>>they did not.
>
>
>Don't forget that Shredder 8 UCI under classic GUI (with superior book) contains
>two programs to buy.

This is true, but I was talking about strenght and not prices...however I did
told about this too.
Still as multiprocessor version it was cheaper than other deep version programs.

>
>
>>Who tested Shredder 8 UCI did admit it is stronger than Shredder 8 CB, so I do
>>not see any :-) to be deserved or not?
>
>
>Not :-) but ;-)
>
>
>>This time however there are not estimate made by me...the fun will be left to
>>you all:-))
>>
>>Sandro
>
>
>I am sure it will not take longer than 2 days to wait for "first estimation"
>based on fast games such as CSS rating list, BfF and WM-Test...

Yes.

Also another thing which needs to be considered is that after being the WC and
SSDF leader for long time one can expect the competition to have tested a lot
against it and therefore to loose some points too now on...

Sandro




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