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Subject: Re: Shredder 9 worsenings over Shredder 8

Author: Harald Faber

Date: 16:24:50 01/28/05

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On January 28, 2005 at 14:20:00, Sandro Necchi wrote:

>On January 28, 2005 at 02:36:23, Harald Faber wrote:
>
>>How many ELOs did you say is Shredder 8 stronger than 7.04? How many ELOs can we
>>see for real (SSDF)? ;)
>
>Well, you need to be precise before making any critic:
>
>SSDF is testing Shredder 8 CB and Shredder 7.04 UCI
>
>1. Shredder 8 CB is using CB interface, which slow down the program a little
>cvompared to UCI and has a different learning feature too
>2. The opening book has 2 reading mode in CB version as the tournament one is
>the std. book selection of UCI gui. This means that a wider range openings/moves
>are selected in this mode, so moves which are not really strong are played too
>reducing the strenght by some points.


Of course I know that, therefore the smiley. But some newbies might not get this
information from the SSDF list only.


>SSDF did not test Shredder 8 UCI, even if we asked, so it is not my fault if
>they did not.


Don't forget that Shredder 8 UCI under classic GUI (with superior book) contains
two programs to buy.


>Who tested Shredder 8 UCI did admit it is stronger than Shredder 8 CB, so I do
>not see any :-) to be deserved or not?


Not :-) but ;-)


>This time however there are not estimate made by me...the fun will be left to
>you all:-))
>
>Sandro


I am sure it will not take longer than 2 days to wait for "first estimation"
based on fast games such as CSS rating list, BfF and WM-Test...



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