Author: Eugene Nalimov
Date: 17:21:10 01/29/05
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Sorry, but I discussed *only* one point: how much quad 1.5GHz Itanium2 costs. It happened that your number was 3.7x too high. Thanks, Eugene On January 29, 2005 at 17:47:31, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On January 29, 2005 at 17:27:31, Eugene Nalimov wrote: > >You're actually cheaply profitting from that the 1.6Ghz version is there now. > >I'm always ending up at $50k as a minimum to start with for quad itanium 1.6Ghz. >Of course you get the top processor if you pay so much anyway. > >Additional this is such incompatible hardware you must buy linux for it too. >That costs $1299. > >You want to put inside more harddisks and i bet it doesn't have much RAID >possibilities to put RAID cards inside. > >Then you need a good compiler for it as GCC is too dead slow at it. > >Intel c++, lemme see for ia64 at least $399. > >Actually intel warns you to put a shitload of RAM inside the quad server itanium >based products. How nice of them. > >You're not even nearly done yet. > >It doesn't have a mouse, nothing yet. Just a 39GB harddisk. > >If you just use this to run your own software you need another year of tuning >and testing before you know that a specific compiler version under options X >will work correct. > >The total price will be in the hundreds of thousands by means of man and machine >cost. > >And after that all, it will perform like a quad opteron 1.6Ghz. > >How nice from intel. > >DELL isn't the problem let me assure you that. Dell is great. > >Vincent > >>On January 29, 2005 at 17:21:07, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On January 29, 2005 at 17:16:55, Eugene Nalimov wrote: >>> >>>First click below that : "quad processor" >>> >>>instead of buying a dual. >>> >>>then hit UPDATE. >> >>Ok, once again: >> >>Go to >> >>http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=555&l=en&oc=PE7250PAD&s=biz >> >>It will show price $17,767. >> >>Click "Quad Intel® Itanium® 2 Processor, 1.5GHz, 4MB Cache [add $6,000]". >>Click "Update Price". >> >>Cost will become $23,767. >> >>Now click "Continue". >> >>In "Hardware Support Services" choose "3Yr BRONZE Support, Next Business Day >>Onsite [subtract $4,999]". >> >>Click "Update Price". >> >>Cost will become $18,768. > >>Click "Continue". >> >>Don't choose any options. Just click "Add To Cart". >>Thanks, >>Eugene > > > >>> >>>>On January 29, 2005 at 17:12:15, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>>> >>>>>On January 29, 2005 at 16:52:16, Eugene Nalimov wrote: >>>>> >>>>>Yes i know certain people like you like to run a quad with just 1 processor >>>>>inside. >>>>> >>>>>I like to have 4. >>>>> >>>>>I clicked quad itanium2 1.6ghz and was directly at $50k when i hit update. >>>>> >>>>>That's with just a 36GB harddisk by the way. >>>> >>>>Once again: *quad* 1.5GHz -- with all four CPUs, not with one -- costs less than >>>>$19k. >>>> >>>>Your original post was about 1.5GHz Itanium2, not high-end ones. There are much >>>>more expensive gigher end ones, I have quad 1.7GHz/9Mb system in my office. >>>> >>>>Thanks, >>>>Eugene >>>> >>>>>$50k is not bad for a system which is equally fast to a quad opteron 1.6Ghz for >>>>>Diep. That said, it's a lot faster for diep than most other software. >>>>> >>>>>Actually a quad opteron 2.2Ghz fully configured at ebay is < $10k. >>>>> >>>>>Vincent >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>On January 29, 2005 at 15:45:25, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>... >>>>>>>We're talking practical about $70000 for a quad itanium2 at 1.5Ghz. >>>>>> >>>>>>You can buy quad Itanium2/1.5GHz/4Mb with 2Gb of RAM and fast SCSI hard drive >>>>>>for less than $19,000. >>>>>> >>>>>>http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/pedge_7250?c=us&cs=555&l=en&s=biz >>>>>> >>>>>>(Start with default configuration, replace default CPU by 1.5GHz/4Mb, say that >>>>>>you want 4 of them, and replace 4 hours on-site support with next next business >>>>>>day one). >>>>>> >>>>>>So you are off by 3.7x (70,000/19,000). >>>>>> >>>>>>Thanks, >>>>>>Eugene
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