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Subject: Re: First Shredder 9 results

Author: Joshua Haglund

Date: 06:45:26 02/03/05

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On February 03, 2005 at 02:50:57, Harald Faber wrote:

>On February 02, 2005 at 12:37:37, Joshua Haglund wrote:
>
>>On February 02, 2005 at 10:43:37, gerold daniels wrote:
>>
>>>when tony tests it than all will know how good the new shedder 9 is.
>>>
>>>gerold.
>>
>>When tony tests it, it'll be done on obsolete hardware, at one time control,
>>with probably less than 1k games. Leave it to the online chess servers to test
>>it :)
>
>
>Totally nonsense. On the servers people play with different machines and their
>own so-called "tuned" books, sometimes even with own settings. It often occurs
>that their "tuning" has an opposite effect and hurts the engine's play and thus
>the results. So how can you say that such results have more weight than playing
>on equal hardware and with the delivered opening book?
>

That's why I give chess engines an ELO RANGE. It covers the wide variety of time
controls, hardware, books and settings, Not just one setting, long time controls
on slow hardware.

>
>>When it has 5000 games it'll be ELO List Update, which will be a day or two
>>after it comes out.
>
>
>Wasted time.
>

The more games played the more accurate the results. Waiting 1 or 2 days isn't a
waist of time to see 5000 games played at Playchess.com versus the mere handful
played.

>
>>Playchess.com does a great job,
>


>
>Rubbish. Read above.
>

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. :)

In fact, I think ICC or the other chess servers should have database generated
results too.

Joshua Haglund
toneewa@yahoo.com



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