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Subject: Re: First Shredder 9 results

Author: Harald Faber

Date: 13:38:57 02/03/05

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On February 03, 2005 at 09:45:26, Joshua Haglund wrote:

>On February 03, 2005 at 02:50:57, Harald Faber wrote:
>
>>On February 02, 2005 at 12:37:37, Joshua Haglund wrote:
>>
>>>On February 02, 2005 at 10:43:37, gerold daniels wrote:
>>>
>>>>when tony tests it than all will know how good the new shedder 9 is.
>>>>
>>>>gerold.
>>>
>>>When tony tests it, it'll be done on obsolete hardware, at one time control,
>>>with probably less than 1k games. Leave it to the online chess servers to test
>>>it :)
>>
>>
>>Totally nonsense. On the servers people play with different machines and their
>>own so-called "tuned" books, sometimes even with own settings. It often occurs
>>that their "tuning" has an opposite effect and hurts the engine's play and thus
>>the results. So how can you say that such results have more weight than playing
>>on equal hardware and with the delivered opening book?
>>
>
>That's why I give chess engines an ELO RANGE. It covers the wide variety of time
>controls, hardware, books and settings, Not just one setting, long time controls
>on slow hardware.


So you measure everything else but not what the out-of-the-box product is able
to play.


>>>When it has 5000 games it'll be ELO List Update, which will be a day or two
>>>after it comes out.
>>
>>
>>Wasted time.
>>
>
>The more games played the more accurate the results. Waiting 1 or 2 days isn't a
>waist of time to see 5000 games played at Playchess.com versus the mere handful
>played.


You did not understand my point. Forget it.


>Joshua Haglund
>toneewa@yahoo.com



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