Author: KarinsDad
Date: 10:18:58 01/29/99
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On January 29, 1999 at 03:48:42, Harald Faber wrote: >On January 28, 1999 at 12:24:59, Howard Exner wrote: > >>>For IMs and GMs it should be easier to win because programs depend a lot on >>>their opening books. Look what they play withoug opening book. For us patzers >>>strong enough but masters know what and why they play... >> >>As we have moved away from the original topic I hope you don't >>mind that I changed the thread name. My way of thinking about humans vs >>computers at shuffle chess is different. Both are stripped of opening knowledge >>but who will be more at home in the chaos of the shuffle chess position? >>I liken it to composed problems. Computers treat these complex, weird looking >>positions no differently than they do other more familiar positions as >>those found in regular play. Humans on the other hand find such positions >>disorienting. For humans our strength in chess is to a larger degree dependent >>on pattern recognition and familiar themes. Computers while also >>having chess knowledge are known more for their number crunching >>skills.Therefore I think humans may suffer more from the chaotic shuffle chess >>opening position. >> >> I'm not sure how popular this form of chess is for IM's >>but if anyone has some games to share I'd be interested. > >I keep it. I tink that IMs and GMs have better understanding of positions and >therefore better chances. IMs and GMs have a better understanding of familiar positions. It has been shown that if you show them a totally bizarre chess position, they flounder almost as much as the rest of us. Since shuffle chess will result in unfamiliar positions, the programs should have a distinct advantage, especially once important opening information is programmed into them. My luck, I would play an IM in shuffle chess and it would be that rare time (1 chance in 25,401,600) when the pieces show up on their original squares for both of us. KarinsDad :)
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