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Subject: Re: Computers and Shuffle Chess

Author: Harald Faber

Date: 00:48:42 01/29/99

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On January 28, 1999 at 12:24:59, Howard Exner wrote:

>>For IMs and GMs it should be easier to win because programs depend a lot on
>>their opening books. Look what they play withoug opening book. For us patzers
>>strong enough but masters know what and why they play...
>
>As we have moved away from the original topic I hope you don't
>mind that I changed the thread name. My way of thinking about humans vs
>computers at shuffle chess is different. Both are stripped of opening knowledge
>but who will be more at home in the chaos of the shuffle chess position?
>I liken it to composed problems. Computers treat these complex, weird looking
>positions no differently than they do other more familiar positions as
>those found in regular play. Humans on the other hand find such positions
>disorienting. For humans our strength in chess is to a larger degree dependent
>on pattern recognition and familiar themes. Computers while also
>having chess knowledge are known more for their number crunching
>skills.Therefore I think humans may suffer more from the chaotic shuffle chess
>opening position.
>
> I'm not sure how popular this form of chess is for IM's
>but if anyone has some games to share I'd be interested.

I keep it. I tink that IMs and GMs have better understanding of positions and
therefore better chances.



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