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Subject: Re: How long to see black is winning + crafty bench

Author: Vincent Lejeune

Date: 08:18:35 03/27/05

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On March 27, 2005 at 10:24:52, Mike Byrne wrote:

>On March 27, 2005 at 06:56:35, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>
>>On March 26, 2005 at 21:30:04, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On March 26, 2005 at 19:46:58, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 26, 2005 at 15:34:45, Dieter Buerssner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On March 26, 2005 at 15:29:42, Dieter Buerssner wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On March 26, 2005 at 15:20:17, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>after the main line :  Kf2 f5 h3 Kc7 g3 hxg3 is winning no?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Black(2): his
>>>>>>>    white       black
>>>>>>>  1  Kf2         f5
>>>>>>>  2  h3          Kc7
>>>>>>>  3  g3          ...
>>>>>>>               17    25.52  -7.17   3. ... hxg3+ 4. Kxg3 f4+ 5. Kg4 b6
>>>>>>>                                    6. h4 f3 7. Kxf3 gxh4 8. c6 Kxc6 9.
>>>>>>>                                    Kg4 b5 10. a5 b4 11. Kxh4 Kb5 12. Kg4
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In this line, Yace says 8. c6? is losing, while 8.cxb6 is draw.
>>>>>
>>>>>It is such an obvious blunder, that it looks like a bug in Crafty.
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Dieter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Probably a bug in the static eval of the pawn endgame. after 3 min@3 Ghz :
>>>
>>>I can't reproduce Mikes PV with this "c6 bug"...  I don't get c6 at any point
>>>that I can see, it always takes...
>>>
>>>Any ideas?
>>
>>
>>I succeded to replicate c6 as best move :
>>1) without any EGTB
>>2) starting with this position 8/1p1k4/5p2/2Pp2p1/P2P3p/8/6PP/6K1 w - - 0 1
>>3) under chessbase interface
>>4) played 1. Kf2 f5 2. h3 Kc7 3. g3 hxg3+ 4. Kxg3 with 5 between each move
>>5) the score is rising for white but it so long I stopped
>>Is it a problem related to only pawns endgame eval or linked to hashtables too ?
>>
>
>I suggest not to test under Chessbase GUI unless you are using the native
>chessbase crafty engine.

I use the native chessbase crafty engine.



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