Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 15:54:01 03/31/05
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On March 31, 2005 at 18:51:07, Günther Simon wrote: >On March 31, 2005 at 15:56:00, Kurt Utzinger wrote: > >>On March 31, 2005 at 15:50:52, Dann Corbit wrote: >> >>>On March 31, 2005 at 15:40:43, Dave Kuntzsch wrote: >>> >>>>These are preliminary results after Toga's first tournament. The Ku suffix >>>>Craftys are private compiles with modified source. They are experimental and not >>>>available for distribution. >>>> >>>>Level: Blitz 5/0 >>>>Hardware: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz >>>> >>>> Program Elo + - Games Score Av.Op. Draws >>>> >>>> 1 Ruffian 1.0.5 : 2680 9 9 4228 62.4 % 2592 28.5 % >>>> 2 Toga II 0.93 : 2657 27 27 504 59.9 % 2587 24.2 % >>>> 3 ProDeo 1.1 : 2623 16 16 1519 54.2 % 2593 21.7 % >>>> 4 List 5.12 : 2620 8 8 4731 53.0 % 2599 28.5 % >>>> 5 Crafty 19.10 Ku : 2612 8 8 4235 51.8 % 2600 36.2 % >>>> 6 Fruit 2.0 : 2602 12 12 2519 49.4 % 2606 21.3 % >>>> 7 ProDeo 1.0 WB : 2598 9 9 4228 49.3 % 2603 23.1 % >>>> 8 Thinker 4.7a : 2594 9 9 3724 48.4 % 2605 34.3 % >>>> 9 Crafty 19.10 Base : 2589 12 12 2024 48.5 % 2600 39.7 % >>>> 10 Aristarch 4.50 : 2588 9 9 3724 47.7 % 2604 28.5 % >>>> 11 Crafty 19.13 Ku : 2587 22 22 511 50.9 % 2581 48.5 % >>>> 12 Crafty Classic 2004 : 2583 11 11 2527 47.5 % 2600 36.8 % >>>> 13 Crafty 19.10b : 2580 22 22 511 49.8 % 2582 47.2 % >>>> 14 Delfi 4.5 : 2571 12 12 2212 45.5 % 2602 29.0 % >>>> 15 SmarThink 0.17a : 2554 27 27 504 42.8 % 2605 23.6 % >>>> 16 SOS-5 : 2546 18 18 1016 43.1 % 2594 26.5 % >>>> 17 Crafty 19.18 Ku : 2532 18 18 1015 40.6 % 2598 34.0 % >>>> 18 Zappa 1.0 : 2522 27 28 504 38.1 % 2606 21.8 % >>>> 19 AnMon 5.50 : 2516 15 15 1708 37.3 % 2607 19.1 % >>>> >>>>Dave >>> >>>It's a lot stronger. Probably less than 1% of the code is modified. It just >>>goes to show how a few clever changes can have a big impact on strenght. In >>>this case, it looks like about 50 Elo. >>> >>>I would say that your subject line is highly misleading. >> >> I am much surprised that Toga (a clone or modified >> Fruit) seems to be accepted by most people. This >> was not the case with other programs in the past :-( >> Kurt > > >Absolutely agreed! Admitting to be a cloner doesn't make it better IMO. >Even if the few code changes (simple ones on a high level) really have >an impact of around 40-50 ELO, I am quite sure Fabien would have >tried the same techniques sooner or later, _if_ he had the time, but AFAIK >he has very little time currently in developing Fruit. >IMO the 'Toga extensions' just robbed Fruit's future... Perhaps they modifications will be contributed back to the core. That would have been more sensible in the first place. IMO-YMMV.
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