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Subject: Re: Moore's Law coming to an end?

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 10:25:35 04/21/05

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On April 20, 2005 at 22:18:44, Robin Smith wrote:

>On April 20, 2005 at 21:03:07, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On April 20, 2005 at 20:11:59, Robin Smith wrote:
>>
>>>On April 20, 2005 at 02:48:05, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 20, 2005 at 01:35:32, Robin Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 18, 2005 at 21:05:10, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I doubt very much if Moore's law will quit in less than 100 years.
>>>>>
>>>>>You can't be serious.
>>>>
>>>>Serious as cancer.
>>>>
>>>>Not that we'll be using ICs in 100 years.  They will look like relays would look
>>>>today for a computing machine, I am sure.
>>>
>>>Moore's law has to do with the number of transistors (or whatever kind of switch
>>>people use in the future), and that this number will grow exponentially,
>>>doubling approximately every 24 months. In 100 years that would mean 50
>>>doublings, thus more than 4*10^23 transistors. This number is approaching the
>>>number of atoms in the earth.
>>
>>6x10^23 is one mole.  One gram of hydrogen atoms (2 grams of hydrogen gas), for
>>instance.  I see no reason we cannot go below the atom level to elementary
>>particle.  And elementary particles themselves could be an entire universe.
>
>OK, my calcualtion was off, but I still think 4*10^23 transistors is far, far
>beyond how far transistor technology will ever be pushed.
>
>>How do you know if we can store 100 things in a single electron or not, or even
>>1e1000 things?
>
>Moore's law is not about storing things, it is about transistors. If it were
>only about storing things people would mention Moore's law with regard to hard
>disks, which they don't.
>
>>>You are talking about one big computer. I
>>>seriously doubt it. More likely in my mind is that in 100 years people will
>>>figure out clever ways of making computers smarter and faster; bigger will not
>>>be the answer.
>>>
>>>-Robin
>>
>>Perhaps our imaginations will discover new things.  There is a good track record
>>for that.
>
>I totally agree. In fact in 100 years I think people will probably figure out
>ways to make Moore's law irrelevant. For example in 100 years people might
>switch from "bits" to "qbits". At this point Moore's law becomes moot. Maybe
>there will be some new exponential improvement law to take its place, but it
>won't be Moore's law.

There is an interesting article in April's CPU magazine on SETs (Single Electon
Transistors).  Apparently, many of the problems have already been worked out and
TI has put forth a bunch of patents on them.



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