Author: Daniel Pineo
Date: 18:22:18 05/05/05
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On May 04, 2005 at 18:16:58, Uri Blass wrote: >On May 04, 2005 at 17:43:10, Telmo C. Escobar wrote: > >>On May 04, 2005 at 14:13:10, Werner Kraft wrote: >> >>>In computer chess , the method to find a move is based on " tree - searching " >>>- you >>>have a move ( 1.e4 ) - then the 20 reply moves for black . SO you build up >>>trees - every variation move is a new branch on it. >>>Now - as a complete analysis of a chess game involves 10-power 120 positions - >>>you introduce evaluation system ... >>> >>>Was there ever another way of looking at that - may be from exotic branches of >>>mathematics - topology e,g ? >>> >> >> Topology, till now, has little to say about finitary situations like chess. >>Also it hardly could be named exotic. >> >> >> >>>I was also thinking about new methods for humans to beat very powerful machines- >>>I mean , there are some gifted individuals , who can calculate roots from large >>>numbers - and they must use some kind mathematical system - shortcuts, that >>>allow them to approximate etc. >>> >> >> Strangely enough, people capable to calculate roots of large numbers, and the >>like, tend to be mentally handicaped and hardly capable of playing chess. > >How do you know it? > >Do you know a single person who is capable of calculating roots of large >numbers? > >It does not seem to me logical that they are mantally handicapped. > >The opposite seems to be correct. >They must have excellent memory and they must be able to think very fast in >order to do things like that. > >In order to calculate root of a number with 30 digits by head you need first to >remember the number and it is a very hard task for most humans. > >Memory is also very important in chess in the high level and I read in books >about excellent memory of some chess champions. > >For example I read that bobby fischer heard in the phone some message of 2 >sentence in language that he did not understand and was able to repeat the >message and tell it to another chess player who translated it. > >Uri I agree, I don't think the brain of a mentally handicapped person is different enough to suggest that they calculate in a way that's fundamentally from a normal person. A simpler explaination is that such abilities are just the result of mental practice. Dan Pineo
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