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Subject: Re: About Movei

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 15:48:55 05/15/05

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On May 15, 2005 at 16:26:40, Klaus Wlotzka wrote:

>On May 15, 2005 at 15:48:36, gerold daniels wrote:
>
>>On May 15, 2005 at 13:07:32, Klaus Wlotzka wrote:
>>
>>>On May 15, 2005 at 12:32:26, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 15, 2005 at 11:59:16, Klaus Wlotzka wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 15, 2005 at 11:42:09, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 15, 2005 at 11:21:21, Klaus Wlotzka wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you haven't noticed it yet, Shredder 9 UCI doesn't play only in the
>>>>>>>CSS-computer rating list in another league.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The difference of 100 Elo is relatively surely high. However, this lies well
>>>>>>>that "Shredder" likes short time controls.  Furthermore "Shredder" copes with
>>>>>>>almost every opening system. Since there play at the CSS-computer rating list
>>>>>>>without books but with 10 modified SeE- positions, this yields broader
>>>>>>>advantages for "Shredder".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Klaus Wlotzka
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think that this test is more interesting for me
>>>>>>I am more interested in testing that is done in that way and I hope that they
>>>>>>will test next version of Movei.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I do not understand how they choose engines to test(for example I see Jonny2.64
>>>>>>that did not aualify and I do not see Jonny2.75).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hello Uri,
>>>>>
>>>>>a complete test run with an engine (480 games) lasts for always about 2 weeks.
>>>>>It can therefore last sometimes up to a year till it is a new version's turn
>>>>>again. So also at Jonny.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am testing "Spike 0.9a" at the moment, the following tests are planned after
>>>>>this:
>>>>>
>>>>>a.) Zappa 1.0
>>>>>b.) Little Goliath Evolution
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't know whether Movei already plays so strongly to qualify for the
>>>>>CSS-computer rating list.  I will look at the previous test reports more
>>>>>closely.
>>>>>
>>>>>Klaus
>>>>
>>>>In that case there is at least a month before testing Movei in case that you
>>>>test it after Little Goliath Evolution and I hope to have better Movei at that
>>>>time to be strong enough for the list.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>Hello Uri,
>>>
>>>I have looked at the rating list of "Leo Dijksman", "Movei" stands approximately
>>>on a level with "Little Goliath" there.  I will parallel test Movei with "Little
>>>Goliath". This would be approximately in three weeks. I use a short test for it.
>>>The short test works so:
>>>
>>>To, in future, find possible new candidates faster who shows a sufficient
>>>playing strength for the qualification into the CSS-computer rating list new
>>>engines will unite short test undergone for the time being. The test candidate
>>>plays all 10 opening specification positions against all engines put in the
>>>current rating list after the following scheme:
>>>
>>>a.) opening specification positions 1-3 against the engines of rank 1-8
>>>b.) opening specification positions 4-6 against the engines of rank 9-16
>>>c.) opening specification positions 7-10 against the engines of rank 17-24
>>>
>>>After this scheme a test run arises with altogether 168 games. This should reach
>>>to a first playing strength assessment.  The candidate reaches a score in the
>>>area of the engine put on rank 25 becomes the test continual, otherwise a
>>>demolition is carried out.  The results of the candidate are listed at
>>>demolition in the "eternal rating list".
>>>
>>>
>>>Therefore, if you still publish a more current engine within the next 3 weeks,
>>>then I would like to test the newer one of course.
>>>
>>>You also can send me an e-mail. You find my address here:
>>>http://www.wlotzka-computerschach.de/
>>>
>>>Yours sincerely
>>>
>>>Klaus
>>
>>good afternoon Klaus. goliath LGE is a pretty strong engine it will certainly
>>be a good test for movei.
>>
>>gerold.
>
>Hi Gerold,
>
>The predecesser engine "Little Goliath revival" couldn't last in the
>CSS-computer rating list.  I am curious whether with "Little Goliath evolution"
>an increase has been successful. I am curious also at "Movei" whether the
>qualification turns out well.
>
>Klaus

I am sure of nothing but I guess that Movei of today is not strong enough to
qualify but 50 elo improvement in it are enough to qualify and I am optimistic
about improvements.

Uri



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