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Subject: Re: About Movei

Author: Klaus Wlotzka

Date: 01:04:26 05/16/05

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On May 15, 2005 at 18:48:55, Uri Blass wrote:

>On May 15, 2005 at 16:26:40, Klaus Wlotzka wrote:
>
>>On May 15, 2005 at 15:48:36, gerold daniels wrote:
>>
>>>On May 15, 2005 at 13:07:32, Klaus Wlotzka wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 15, 2005 at 12:32:26, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 15, 2005 at 11:59:16, Klaus Wlotzka wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 15, 2005 at 11:42:09, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On May 15, 2005 at 11:21:21, Klaus Wlotzka wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you haven't noticed it yet, Shredder 9 UCI doesn't play only in the
>>>>>>>>CSS-computer rating list in another league.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The difference of 100 Elo is relatively surely high. However, this lies well
>>>>>>>>that "Shredder" likes short time controls.  Furthermore "Shredder" copes with
>>>>>>>>almost every opening system. Since there play at the CSS-computer rating list
>>>>>>>>without books but with 10 modified SeE- positions, this yields broader
>>>>>>>>advantages for "Shredder".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Klaus Wlotzka
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think that this test is more interesting for me
>>>>>>>I am more interested in testing that is done in that way and I hope that they
>>>>>>>will test next version of Movei.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I do not understand how they choose engines to test(for example I see Jonny2.64
>>>>>>>that did not aualify and I do not see Jonny2.75).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hello Uri,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>a complete test run with an engine (480 games) lasts for always about 2 weeks.
>>>>>>It can therefore last sometimes up to a year till it is a new version's turn
>>>>>>again. So also at Jonny.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am testing "Spike 0.9a" at the moment, the following tests are planned after
>>>>>>this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>a.) Zappa 1.0
>>>>>>b.) Little Goliath Evolution
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't know whether Movei already plays so strongly to qualify for the
>>>>>>CSS-computer rating list.  I will look at the previous test reports more
>>>>>>closely.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Klaus
>>>>>
>>>>>In that case there is at least a month before testing Movei in case that you
>>>>>test it after Little Goliath Evolution and I hope to have better Movei at that
>>>>>time to be strong enough for the list.
>>>>>
>>>>>Uri
>>>>
>>>>Hello Uri,
>>>>
>>>>I have looked at the rating list of "Leo Dijksman", "Movei" stands approximately
>>>>on a level with "Little Goliath" there.  I will parallel test Movei with "Little
>>>>Goliath". This would be approximately in three weeks. I use a short test for it.
>>>>The short test works so:
>>>>
>>>>To, in future, find possible new candidates faster who shows a sufficient
>>>>playing strength for the qualification into the CSS-computer rating list new
>>>>engines will unite short test undergone for the time being. The test candidate
>>>>plays all 10 opening specification positions against all engines put in the
>>>>current rating list after the following scheme:
>>>>
>>>>a.) opening specification positions 1-3 against the engines of rank 1-8
>>>>b.) opening specification positions 4-6 against the engines of rank 9-16
>>>>c.) opening specification positions 7-10 against the engines of rank 17-24
>>>>
>>>>After this scheme a test run arises with altogether 168 games. This should reach
>>>>to a first playing strength assessment.  The candidate reaches a score in the
>>>>area of the engine put on rank 25 becomes the test continual, otherwise a
>>>>demolition is carried out.  The results of the candidate are listed at
>>>>demolition in the "eternal rating list".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Therefore, if you still publish a more current engine within the next 3 weeks,
>>>>then I would like to test the newer one of course.
>>>>
>>>>You also can send me an e-mail. You find my address here:
>>>>http://www.wlotzka-computerschach.de/
>>>>
>>>>Yours sincerely
>>>>
>>>>Klaus
>>>
>>>good afternoon Klaus. goliath LGE is a pretty strong engine it will certainly
>>>be a good test for movei.
>>>
>>>gerold.
>>
>>Hi Gerold,
>>
>>The predecesser engine "Little Goliath revival" couldn't last in the
>>CSS-computer rating list.  I am curious whether with "Little Goliath evolution"
>>an increase has been successful. I am curious also at "Movei" whether the
>>qualification turns out well.
>>
>>Klaus
>
>I am sure of nothing but I guess that Movei of today is not strong enough to
>qualify but 50 elo improvement in it are enough to qualify and I am optimistic
>about improvements.
>
>Uri

Hello Uri,

think you it would be better that I still wait a little with the test?

Klaus



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