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Subject: Re: Semi-OT Go programming

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 06:41:28 05/25/05

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On May 25, 2005 at 09:10:36, Vasik Rajlich wrote:

>On May 25, 2005 at 06:13:54, Tord Romstad wrote:
>
>>On May 25, 2005 at 01:21:18, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>On May 25, 2005 at 00:54:06, Joshua Shriver wrote:
>>>
>>>>Just curious has any engine developers here tried or have an interest in Go
>>>>engine programming?
>>>
>>>My main difficulty is that I would hate to labor ten years to produce something
>>>that does not play as well as a good five year old Go player.
>>
>>I have the same problem.  I am very interested in Go programming, but
>>currently the tremendous difficulties scare me.
>>
>>On the other hand, computer chess is rapidly becoming too easy as the CPU
>>speeds increase.  Straightforward, unoptimised implementations of a handful
>>of simple and well-known algorithms is sufficient to beat all but a tiny
>>fraction of the world's chess players.  No creativity and nothing more than
>>the most basic programming skills is really needed.  I find this rather
>>depressing, and my interest in chess programming is slowly waning.
>>
>>Shogi looks like it has the perfect balance.  It is sufficiently difficult
>>to be a very interesting programming challenge, but does not look impossibly
>>difficult (like go).  At the moment there is an equivalent to the UCI or
>>xboard protocol for Shogi and a few nice GUIs for the major operating
>>systems, I will probably instantly abandon chess programming and start
>>writing a shogi program instead.
>>
>>>I have nosed around in it.  My other problem is that I don't play Go myself, so
>>>it does not have the same fascination in that direction.
>>
>>If you have a go club in your neighborhood, I would very much recommend
>>trying it.  The game is much more fun to play than chess, IMHO.
>>
>
>I think that which game you prefer is a sort of basic personality test, for
>whether you like
>
>1) short-term or long-term thinking
>2) clear-cut or open-ended problems
>3) clear or vague feedback
>4) to move from one micro-problem to another or to stick to one persistent theme
>
>etc ..
>
>Apparently it's been shown that chess players use only one half of their brains
>during play (the half responsible for logical thinking), while go players use
>both halves.
>
>Vas

I think that both Chess and Go are based on logical thinking.

If half of the brain is not responsible for logical thinking then I do not
understand how it can be used for go or for every thinking game.

Uri



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