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Subject: Re: More Adam vs Hydra Hype

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 10:01:19 05/27/05

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On May 27, 2005 at 08:33:04, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On May 26, 2005 at 19:43:07, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On May 26, 2005 at 15:54:18, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>On May 26, 2005 at 15:52:19, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 26, 2005 at 14:18:37, Sune Fischer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 26, 2005 at 13:15:04, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 26, 2005 at 12:02:37, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>>>[snip]
>>>>>>>Hello, i can calculate prime numbers up to 10 million digits at my pc nearly,
>>>>>>>though not within 5 minutes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Less than a second, I imagine.
>>>>>
>>>>>That's quite an imagination since there aren't any known primes that large :)
>>>
>>>I misread the statement as "finding the first ten million primes"
>>>
>>>>>Last I checked only a handful or so had been found with more than a million
>>>>>digits, and of course only through weeks of massively parallel super computer
>>>>>power.
>>>>
>>>>From:
>>>>http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm
>>>>
>>>>The record is:
>>>>7,816,230 digits
>>>
>>>There is $100,000 for finding a ten million digit prime.
>>
>>Is finding the number enough or is the prize only for people who also prove that
>>the number they picked is a prime.
>>
>>Suppose one person find a number of 10,000,000 digits and claims that the number
>>is prime with no proof and somebody else proves that the number is a prime
>>number.
>>
>>who get the prize?
>>Uri
>
>It's just a small theoretic difference. The problem is finding the prime.
>Whether you do that with 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999% certainty or
>with 100% certainty is not important at all initially. You just ship the prime
>to them that's all. Then some months later, after being helped by 100
>mathematicians you can also prove it is a prime.

A number can be proved prime by a number of algorithms like APR-CLE, ECPP,
Lucas-Lemur [for primes of a certain sort only], etc.

A good probabilistic algorithm to find if it is almost surely prime is
Miller-Rabin.

http://www.utm.edu/research/primes/prove/index.html

>The real problem is finding a number X that most likely is a prime. The proof of
>it you leave to others who are happy to help you in that. But first show them
>some serious 'industry grade' primes.
>
>Vincent



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