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Subject: Re: More Adam vs Hydra Hype

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 14:57:47 05/27/05

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On May 27, 2005 at 13:01:19, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On May 27, 2005 at 08:33:04, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On May 26, 2005 at 19:43:07, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On May 26, 2005 at 15:54:18, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 26, 2005 at 15:52:19, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 26, 2005 at 14:18:37, Sune Fischer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 26, 2005 at 13:15:04, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On May 26, 2005 at 12:02:37, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>>>>[snip]
>>>>>>>>Hello, i can calculate prime numbers up to 10 million digits at my pc nearly,
>>>>>>>>though not within 5 minutes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Less than a second, I imagine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That's quite an imagination since there aren't any known primes that large :)
>>>>
>>>>I misread the statement as "finding the first ten million primes"
>>>>
>>>>>>Last I checked only a handful or so had been found with more than a million
>>>>>>digits, and of course only through weeks of massively parallel super computer
>>>>>>power.
>>>>>
>>>>>From:
>>>>>http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>The record is:
>>>>>7,816,230 digits
>>>>
>>>>There is $100,000 for finding a ten million digit prime.
>>>
>>>Is finding the number enough or is the prize only for people who also prove that
>>>the number they picked is a prime.
>>>
>>>Suppose one person find a number of 10,000,000 digits and claims that the number
>>>is prime with no proof and somebody else proves that the number is a prime
>>>number.
>>>
>>>who get the prize?
>>>Uri
>>
>>It's just a small theoretic difference. The problem is finding the prime.
>>Whether you do that with 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999% certainty or
>>with 100% certainty is not important at all initially. You just ship the prime
>>to them that's all. Then some months later, after being helped by 100
>>mathematicians you can also prove it is a prime.
>
>A number can be proved prime by a number of algorithms like APR-CLE, ECPP,
>Lucas-Lemur [for primes of a certain sort only], etc.
>
>A good probabilistic algorithm to find if it is almost surely prime is
>Miller-Rabin.
>
>http://www.utm.edu/research/primes/prove/index.html

Actually for a 10 million digit prime the fastest way to prove a random prime is
going to take too long with todays hardware. 100 days to the power 6 is a pretty
long time.

Undoubtfully you'll google a bit more to find a solution for that.

>>The real problem is finding a number X that most likely is a prime. The proof of
>>it you leave to others who are happy to help you in that. But first show them
>>some serious 'industry grade' primes.
>>
>>Vincent



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