Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 15:29:28 07/15/05
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On July 15, 2005 at 17:30:08, Sune Fischer wrote: >On July 15, 2005 at 14:58:32, Tord Romstad wrote: > >>On July 15, 2005 at 14:39:53, Steve Glanzfeld wrote: >> >>>On July 15, 2005 at 12:54:25, Dann Corbit wrote: >>> >>>>>And therefore, the games are vastly inferior in quality (as well as quantity). >>> >>>Vastly inferior? SSDF is testing 40/2h with 1200 MHz. CEGT is testing 40/40m >>>with 2000 MHz. That is not much different in terms of CPU cycles per move. >>> >>>1200 MHz*180=216 billion cpu cycles per move >>>2000 MHz* 60=120 billion cpu cycles per move >> >>No. You forget about pondering. CEGT games are played on one computer, >>without pondering. This means that the actual difference is bigger than 2:1. > >What is quality but our subjective, often feeble minded, opinions. > >Two hour something games is "quality" but one hour is "garbage"?? >Come on that is not rational thinking. The time difference is really about 4:1 >How many people actually go over these tons and tons of automated games anyway.. Not many. I also find the games between the best programs very useful for book building. I would not trust the CEGT games for that purpose. >In order to construct a usable and interesting rating list priority number 1 is >to have enough games for a reliable rating, otherwise it _is_ going to be >statistical garbage. Controlling the environment of the test so that it is reproducible is probably in the same range of importance as the large number of games. The AEGT and CEGT games do not seem to be held at a consistent time control. I found (for instance) these time settings in the headers of their files: [TimeControl "40/1080:0/0:0/0"] [TimeControl "40/1080:40/1080:40/1080"] [TimeControl "40/1200:0/0:0/0"] [TimeControl "40/1320:40/1320:40/1320"] [TimeControl "40/1440:40/1440:40/1440"] [TimeControl "40/1680:0/0:0/0"] [TimeControl "40/1800:0"] [TimeControl "40/2280:40/2280:40/2280"] [TimeControl "40/960:40/960:40/960"] The AEGT and CEGT contests assume the NUNN positions as openings, and so they do not exercise the opening book of the program being tested. That is fine to measure engine strength, but it will not tell you about book+program and it will not help you to prepare for that opponent (if it is a goal). >My personal intuition is that it requires about 1000 games per engine to have >fairly accurate estimate, 2000 games is better. 500 is a bare minimum if the programs are fairly close. 1000 will give good numbers and 2000 gives excellent results. Probably just as important is to have a large number of programs which have a large number of games (e.g. if you have two programs with 1000 games each, that will not produce nearly the excellence of 10 programs with 1000 games each. >The timecontrol should be adjusted accordingly so you can reach at least that >many games before publishing the rating list. If we did a million games at G/1 second, we will have a lot of games but bad data. So longer games are (inuitively) better. At what point "long enough is long enough" is another matter. If you PLAY at 40/2, then 40/2 will give you answers about your actual conditions. If you PLAY at 40/40 then that time control will give you better results for what you are interested in. If you like super-fast games, then neither experiment is what you are after. >>>And of course, within the same time CEGT can provide a larger quantity >>>of games than SSDF. >> >>Yes. That is one of the many reasons why we are very lucky to have >>both lists. The two lists serve entirely different purposes, and one >>of them cannot possibly replace the other. >> >>The time controls, pondering and hardware are not the only differences. >>There is also the matter of opening books. The SSDF list is still the >>only one which tests under strict tournament conditions. Each engine >>has the whole computer for itself, slow time controls, own book. As >>you point out, this has the obvious disadvantage that it takes a very >>long time to obtain reliable ratings, and that it is never possible to >>test most weak engines like mine. Therefore the CEGT list is a very >>valuable complement. > >The rating lists are different indeed and it is good to have them both, but I >tend to look at CEGT more than SSDF now. > >SSDF is overdoing it a little bit, time could be better spent. The fact that >they have 20 fritzes doesn't exactly add to the excitement IMO. The older programs have more games against them and therefore are more accurate as measuring tools. But a lot of people get hot under the collar about running games on 450 MHz computers when they do that. >-S. >>Tord There is some inconsistent naming of the program names in CEGT and AEGT, and only some professional programs have a very large number of games. Here is the Elostat list I get when processing the PGN: Program Elo + - Games Score Av.Op. Draws 1 Shredder 9 : 2756 10 14 2666 69.1 % 2616 29.4 % 2 Ktulu 7.0a : 2731 329 189 7 78.6 % 2505 42.9 % 3 Fruit 2.1 : 2720 13 13 2001 61.3 % 2640 35.1 % 4 Shredder 9 UCI : 2713 128 104 26 61.5 % 2631 38.5 % 5 Fritz 8 Bilbao : 2711 55 47 122 59.8 % 2642 37.7 % 6 Fritz 8 : 2708 15 15 1540 59.8 % 2639 30.1 % 7 Junior 9 : 2698 13 13 1984 60.0 % 2628 31.5 % 8 Ktulu 7.0-7.0a : 2690 42 30 262 51.3 % 2681 37.0 % 9 Spike 0.9 : 2675 156 156 10 50.0 % 2675 60.0 % 10 Hiarcs 9 : 2675 13 11 2234 55.8 % 2635 35.2 % 11 Gandalf 6.01 : 2672 98 86 38 64.5 % 2569 39.5 % 12 Ktulu 7.0 : 2664 16 15 1394 58.5 % 2604 32.3 % 13 Gandalf 6.0 : 2662 14 11 2206 54.6 % 2630 34.5 % 14 Chess Tiger 15.0 : 2658 14 11 2061 53.8 % 2631 37.8 % 15 Ruffian Leiden2003 : 2656 28 23 504 56.1 % 2614 36.7 % 16 Ruffian 2.1.0 : 2644 16 12 1715 52.3 % 2628 34.2 % 17 CM 10000 Steadfast : 2641 17 25 768 49.6 % 2644 37.5 % 18 Pro Deo 1.1 : 2633 14 19 1296 49.2 % 2639 30.2 % 19 CMX Yoda : 2632 19 26 672 48.2 % 2644 33.9 % 20 List 512 : 2628 18 12 1565 50.3 % 2626 33.2 % 21 Ruffian 1.0.5 : 2626 21 22 720 63.3 % 2532 32.1 % 22 Spike 0.9a : 2617 19 13 1338 51.3 % 2608 35.8 % 23 Pharaon 3.3 : 2616 38 31 279 56.3 % 2572 34.4 % 24 Fruit 2.0 : 2612 15 19 1274 47.3 % 2630 30.8 % 25 Naum 1.8-b1 : 2609 110 65 38 55.3 % 2572 52.6 % 26 Pseudo 0.7c : 2607 16 22 963 48.4 % 2618 36.6 % 27 SOS 5 for Arena : 2605 14 18 1279 45.3 % 2638 34.5 % 28 Pro Deo 1.0 : 2601 23 21 679 57.4 % 2549 31.5 % 29 Glaurung 0.2.4 : 2601 38 28 313 51.6 % 2590 34.2 % 30 Deep Sjeng 1.6 : 2600 20 23 750 43.5 % 2645 30.4 % 31 SlowChess Blitz WV : 2598 14 20 1136 47.4 % 2617 36.8 % 32 Aristarch 4.50 : 2595 12 16 1926 49.5 % 2599 31.2 % 33 Ktulu 5.1 : 2579 26 26 518 41.0 % 2642 28.8 % 34 Scorpio 1.3 : 2578 47 34 187 54.8 % 2545 41.2 % 35 Naum 1.8b1 : 2578 95 70 51 53.9 % 2551 37.3 % 36 Zappa 1.0 : 2577 14 18 1245 46.0 % 2605 34.9 % 37 Anaconda 2.0.1 : 2576 16 18 1182 43.7 % 2620 33.0 % 38 Pepito 1.59 : 2574 93 93 38 50.0 % 2574 36.8 % 39 Ruffian 2.10 : 2573 147 453 5 30.0 % 2720 60.0 % 40 Glaurung 0.2.3 : 2568 17 20 934 43.7 % 2611 33.9 % 41 Fruit 2.0-fast : 2566 29 31 381 62.1 % 2480 30.2 % 42 SOS 4 : 2565 26 25 558 57.7 % 2511 26.2 % 43 Thinker 4.7a : 2562 14 17 1340 45.3 % 2595 36.9 % 44 Pharaon 3.2 : 2562 16 18 1070 41.9 % 2618 35.4 % 45 Delfi 4.5 : 2561 12 15 1841 46.1 % 2589 32.3 % 46 Green Light Chess 3.01.2.2: 2561 24 32 423 46.0 % 2589 37.6 % 47 GLChess 3.01.2.2 : 2561 128 219 13 46.2 % 2588 46.2 % 48 DanChess CCT7 : 2557 16 18 1193 43.2 % 2605 32.4 % 49 AnMon 5.50 : 2556 81 114 38 47.4 % 2575 36.8 % 50 The Baron 1.6.1 : 2556 49 38 195 51.3 % 2547 28.7 % 51 AnMon5.53 : 2555 31 31 361 50.0 % 2555 29.1 % 52 Green Light Chess 301.2.2 : 2547 126 126 22 50.0 % 2547 36.4 % 53 GreenLightChess 30122 : 2547 210 210 11 50.0 % 2547 27.3 % 54 ETChess 01.05.05 : 2546 51 72 89 47.2 % 2565 38.2 % 55 AnMon5.50 : 2543 17 18 1088 41.2 % 2605 31.6 % 56 Little Goliath Evolution : 2542 51 72 89 47.2 % 2561 38.2 % 57 Naum 1.71 : 2541 20 22 690 39.1 % 2618 39.0 % 58 Thinker 4.6c : 2540 38 28 315 51.9 % 2527 35.9 % 59 Tao 5.7 b04 : 2538 37 28 336 51.8 % 2525 31.5 % 60 SlowChess Blitz 0.4 : 2537 26 36 365 49.2 % 2542 34.8 % 61 Crafty Cito 1.2 : 2535 33 45 223 48.0 % 2549 35.9 % 62 Naum 1.7 : 2534 28 29 434 41.4 % 2595 30.2 % 63 GLChess 3.0122 : 2534 86 114 38 47.4 % 2552 31.6 % 64 SmarThink 0.17a : 2528 38 53 174 49.7 % 2530 32.8 % 65 Patriot 1.3.0 : 2519 31 23 529 32.4 % 2647 25.5 % 66 Zarkov 4.75 : 2518 52 68 89 43.3 % 2565 39.3 % 67 Crafty 19.15 : 2517 27 20 600 52.4 % 2500 34.8 % 68 Pharaon 3.1 : 2514 39 32 265 56.2 % 2471 35.5 % 69 Amyan 1.595 : 2512 18 16 1138 36.4 % 2609 30.4 % 70 Tao 5.7 b07 : 2511 29 34 354 44.9 % 2546 28.8 % 71 Movei 00.8.310 : 2511 24 24 571 39.4 % 2585 32.9 % 72 AnMon 5.51 : 2509 38 34 275 55.5 % 2471 27.3 % 73 Yace 0.99.87 : 2509 16 17 1299 41.2 % 2571 30.5 % 74 Pharaon 3.00b : 2507 46 36 216 52.1 % 2492 29.2 % 75 Ufim 6.00 : 2505 23 24 584 38.8 % 2585 34.8 % 76 Amyan 1.597 : 2505 27 30 411 41.6 % 2564 34.5 % 77 Spike 0.9X2 : 2499 36 49 213 68.5 % 2363 25.4 % 78 The Baron 1.5.0 : 2498 31 33 347 42.8 % 2549 28.0 % 79 The Baron 1.4.1b1 : 2498 54 49 140 56.4 % 2453 27.1 % 80 Gothmog 1.0 B10 : 2493 20 24 703 45.7 % 2523 30.0 % 81 GLC 3.01.2.2 : 2490 41 30 265 52.5 % 2473 35.5 % 82 E.T. Chess 221004 : 2487 92 97 48 59.4 % 2422 18.8 % 83 Petir 2.5c : 2486 38 43 196 40.6 % 2552 37.2 % 84 DanChess 1.0.8 1201 : 2485 63 48 120 51.7 % 2473 30.0 % 85 Naum 1.6b2 : 2484 39 56 156 49.4 % 2488 34.6 % 86 GLC 3.00.3.4 : 2480 39 28 298 52.5 % 2463 36.6 % 87 Jonny 2.75 : 2477 47 41 199 53.0 % 2456 22.6 % 88 Movei 00_8_295 : 2477 39 29 314 50.3 % 2474 30.6 % 89 Quark 2.35 : 2476 23 23 686 40.8 % 2541 26.5 % 90 AnMon 5.32 : 2471 44 45 179 40.8 % 2536 27.9 % 91 WildCat 4 : 2469 25 25 572 50.0 % 2469 28.3 % 92 The Baron 1.6.0 b1 : 2469 76 86 56 42.0 % 2525 30.4 % 93 SlowChess 2.94 : 2468 54 43 157 51.9 % 2455 28.7 % 94 DanChess 1.07c DC : 2467 32 25 420 53.6 % 2443 33.8 % 95 Movei 00_8_291a : 2467 44 32 255 50.2 % 2465 29.8 % 96 DanChess 1.08 1701 : 2466 117 147 25 48.0 % 2480 24.0 % 97 Glaurung 0.1.7 : 2465 600 600 4 50.0 % 2465 0.0 % 98 Petir 2.1 : 2465 398 398 4 50.0 % 2465 50.0 % 99 Naum 1.6b3 : 2464 83 61 68 52.9 % 2444 35.3 % 100 Fruit X 07/05 : 2463 58 44 140 51.1 % 2456 30.7 % 101 Naum 1.6b : 2462 63 83 63 44.4 % 2501 38.1 % 102 ElChinito 3.25 : 2458 51 46 148 57.4 % 2406 31.1 % 103 AnMon 5.40 : 2452 48 35 214 50.5 % 2448 29.9 % 104 LG Revival 1.00.14 : 2447 35 29 349 53.6 % 2422 29.8 % 105 Crafty 19.17 : 2447 47 47 159 39.0 % 2525 30.2 % 106 Fruit 1.5t : 2445 51 45 161 55.3 % 2408 27.3 % 107 E.T. Chess 071204 : 2445 31 38 297 45.5 % 2476 31.0 % 108 Movei 00_8_291 : 2438 49 42 186 53.0 % 2418 24.2 % 109 Fruit 041112 : 2438 98 146 24 45.8 % 2467 41.7 % 110 Amyan 1.593b : 2437 52 43 161 54.0 % 2409 28.6 % 111 Naum 1.5 : 2436 35 41 241 44.0 % 2478 31.5 % 112 Ufim 5.03 : 2435 47 42 182 56.9 % 2387 29.1 % 113 Pepito v1.59 : 2434 32 27 417 52.9 % 2414 28.1 % 114 The Baron 1.4.0b2 : 2430 40 51 192 65.6 % 2318 22.9 % 115 Movei 00_8_263 : 2426 53 48 143 55.9 % 2384 26.6 % 116 LambChop 10.99 : 2423 80 94 48 42.7 % 2474 31.2 % 117 Patzer 3.61 : 2421 42 49 188 47.1 % 2441 22.9 % 118 Amyan 1.594 : 2418 40 29 308 50.2 % 2417 29.5 % 119 Naum 1.2 : 2416 35 31 332 55.4 % 2378 28.9 % 120 Pseudo 0.6e : 2413 55 47 143 53.8 % 2386 26.6 % 121 King of Kings 2.56 : 2412 21 24 657 43.9 % 2455 30.6 % 122 Naum 1.4 : 2411 88 139 24 41.7 % 2469 50.0 % 123 SlowChess 2.93a : 2411 44 44 161 50.0 % 2411 37.9 % 124 Nejmet 3.07 : 2403 35 30 325 56.6 % 2356 31.4 % 125 Abrok 5.0 : 2401 28 36 356 48.2 % 2413 29.5 % 126 Arasan 8.3 : 2400 53 43 162 52.8 % 2380 27.8 % 127 Movei 00_8_247s : 2390 43 53 161 46.9 % 2412 28.0 % 128 Pharaon 2.62 : 2385 44 45 192 59.1 % 2321 24.5 % 129 Jonny 2.64 : 2384 45 51 163 45.7 % 2414 25.2 % 130 Jonny 2.70 : 2383 28 34 389 48.2 % 2395 23.9 % 131 Comet B.68 : 2379 30 25 503 52.6 % 2361 24.1 % 132 Petir 2.0 : 2379 46 70 132 69.3 % 2237 18.9 % 133 Arasan 8.1 : 2378 37 45 218 46.3 % 2403 27.5 % 134 Terra 3.3 : 2376 462 511 4 37.5 % 2465 25.0 % 135 Trace 1.33B : 2375 51 45 169 53.3 % 2352 21.3 % 136 Pseudo 0.6h : 2373 40 34 264 34.8 % 2482 28.0 % 137 Knight Dreamer 3.3 : 2372 102 73 51 24.5 % 2568 29.4 % 138 Dragon 4.5 CF : 2370 29 37 304 45.4 % 2402 36.2 % 139 KnightDreamer 3.3 : 2367 31 23 497 50.8 % 2361 30.0 % 140 DanChess 1.07c : 2366 67 71 76 40.8 % 2430 28.9 % 141 Pseudo 0.6b : 2366 68 72 74 40.5 % 2432 29.7 % 142 Amy 0.8.7b : 2363 27 32 444 47.7 % 2379 21.6 % 143 Dragon 4.6 : 2361 55 49 137 55.1 % 2326 25.5 % 144 Terra 3.3B11 : 2344 26 32 475 49.8 % 2345 22.1 % 145 PostModernist 1010a : 2342 32 25 444 52.7 % 2323 29.3 % 146 Petir 1.0.8 : 2341 73 174 44 84.1 % 2052 13.6 % 147 Spike 0.6 : 2340 38 57 184 70.1 % 2192 22.8 % 148 Bruja 1.8 : 2340 62 50 116 53.4 % 2316 29.3 % 149 Arasan 7.4 : 2340 49 39 192 52.3 % 2323 28.6 % 150 Bruja 1.9b : 2338 46 46 177 42.1 % 2393 24.3 % 151 Spike 0.7 : 2336 46 50 152 41.4 % 2396 30.3 % 152 Booot 4.1.1 : 2327 44 71 138 71.0 % 2172 18.8 % 153 Amateur 2.80 : 2326 26 32 467 49.3 % 2331 22.3 % 154 The Crazy Bishop 0052 : 2323 25 30 469 46.9 % 2344 27.3 % 155 Booot 4.2.2 : 2320 48 60 132 48.5 % 2331 25.8 % 156 DanChess 1.0.6 DC : 2319 40 54 184 67.4 % 2193 22.8 % 157 Frenzee 159 : 2316 27 32 445 48.8 % 2324 22.9 % 158 Ufim 5.02 : 2315 52 50 132 60.2 % 2243 31.1 % 159 Glaurung 0.1.4 : 2313 137 136 24 39.6 % 2387 20.8 % 160 Spike 0.8a : 2312 90 128 32 48.4 % 2323 34.4 % 161 Cerebro 1.27d : 2307 52 64 116 48.3 % 2319 24.1 % 162 Trace 1.30 : 2300 47 62 136 67.6 % 2172 23.5 % 163 Muse 0.898 : 2286 41 51 172 47.4 % 2305 28.5 % 164 Snitch 1.0.8 : 2286 56 53 132 55.7 % 2246 22.0 % 165 Ufim 5.01 : 2280 39 34 273 36.3 % 2378 27.8 % 166 Muse 0.899b : 2277 49 53 136 41.9 % 2333 29.4 % 167 Snitch 1.0.0 : 2273 51 59 116 43.1 % 2322 31.0 % 168 Eeyore 1.47 : 2270 45 50 176 59.9 % 2200 21.0 % 169 Queen 2.44 : 2270 42 50 164 44.2 % 2311 32.3 % 170 Chispa v4.058 : 2268 32 39 297 48.0 % 2282 25.9 % 171 Cerebro 1.30a : 2268 55 42 167 32.6 % 2394 24.6 % 172 Snitch 0.5.5 : 2266 44 54 172 61.9 % 2182 18.0 % 173 Zappa 0.80b : 2266 177 127 24 33.3 % 2387 8.3 % 174 Queen 2.45 : 2266 59 49 133 52.6 % 2248 24.1 % 175 Bruja 1.7 : 2265 45 51 171 61.7 % 2182 21.6 % 176 Arion 1.1 : 2251 160 142 22 38.6 % 2331 13.6 % 177 Cerebro 1.27 : 2245 47 49 172 58.7 % 2183 20.9 % 178 Gosu 0.5 : 2244 48 61 132 49.2 % 2250 24.2 % 179 Booot 4.0.3 : 2241 47 47 172 58.1 % 2184 23.3 % 180 Natwarlal 0.09 : 2233 37 36 300 55.8 % 2192 21.0 % 181 The Butcher 1.53 : 2233 42 34 256 52.5 % 2215 28.5 % 182 GES 1.34 : 2230 56 56 124 57.7 % 2176 21.8 % 183 Knightx 1.86 : 2229 51 56 133 62.4 % 2141 25.6 % 184 Eeyore 1.49c UCI : 2229 57 59 123 57.3 % 2178 17.1 % 185 Averno 0.70 : 2228 39 30 317 50.6 % 2223 26.2 % 186 Tytan 3.9.8 : 2227 54 53 132 58.3 % 2168 24.2 % 187 The Butcher 1.52 : 2224 54 50 132 58.0 % 2168 29.5 % 188 Tytan 4.7 : 2221 60 47 136 33.8 % 2338 23.5 % 189 Tytan 3.8.3 : 2220 96 94 47 41.5 % 2280 19.1 % 190 Djinn 0.870 : 2216 27 32 440 48.3 % 2228 23.9 % 191 The Butcher 1.47 : 2210 96 90 48 39.6 % 2283 20.8 % 192 Rybka 1.6.0.1x : 2208 42 70 160 69.4 % 2066 12.5 % 193 Chezzz 1.0.3 : 2206 90 90 50 41.0 % 2269 22.0 % 194 Nullmover 0.25 : 2199 55 55 132 57.2 % 2149 20.5 % 195 Trace 1.29 : 2199 52 45 172 51.7 % 2187 19.8 % 196 Hermann 1.2 : 2194 55 58 133 57.1 % 2144 15.0 % 197 Hermann 1.2.93 : 2194 61 54 124 52.0 % 2180 18.5 % 198 AICE 0.88 : 2189 62 55 123 51.2 % 2181 16.3 % 199 AICE 0.82 : 2181 48 71 132 67.0 % 2058 14.4 % 200 Beowulf 2.3b6 : 2170 59 51 132 52.7 % 2151 22.0 % 201 GES 1.29 : 2170 59 47 132 52.7 % 2151 28.0 % 202 Delphil 0.9c : 2167 59 47 132 52.3 % 2152 28.8 % 203 Betsy 6.51 : 2166 143 74 48 21.9 % 2388 14.6 % 204 Dorky 3.48 : 2162 40 50 180 46.9 % 2183 29.4 % 205 Kiwi 0.4c : 2162 53 60 124 46.8 % 2184 21.0 % 206 Gosu 0.3 : 2159 47 55 159 49.4 % 2164 18.2 % 207 Merlin 2.0b : 2156 46 61 160 62.2 % 2070 11.9 % 208 Waster 0.14 : 2147 33 35 333 45.3 % 2179 20.4 % 209 Greko 2.815 : 2142 134 115 28 53.6 % 2117 21.4 % 210 Scidlet 3.6.1 DC : 2136 37 32 312 37.0 % 2228 26.0 % 211 Tinker 4.6.9 : 2134 52 61 132 60.2 % 2062 15.9 % 212 Greko 2.817 : 2132 50 59 133 47.4 % 2150 22.6 % 213 CyberPagno 2.1 : 2131 35 33 327 40.8 % 2195 22.9 % 214 GES 1.16b : 2129 106 80 48 29.2 % 2283 25.0 % 215 Beowulf 2.3b5 : 2129 113 80 48 29.2 % 2283 20.8 % 216 DrunkenMaster 1.2 : 2127 49 53 160 57.8 % 2073 16.9 % 217 Hermann 1.1.8 : 2126 53 46 172 40.7 % 2192 16.3 % 218 Naga Skaki 3.07 : 2122 33 33 339 41.9 % 2179 24.2 % 219 Natwarlal 0.07 : 2119 135 135 28 50.0 % 2119 7.1 % 220 Nesik 0.6.4 : 2117 50 48 160 56.2 % 2073 22.5 % 221 Alarm 0.93.1 : 2116 50 45 172 39.2 % 2192 21.5 % 222 Eeyore 1.45 : 2111 117 78 48 27.1 % 2283 20.8 % 223 Petir 1.0.2 : 2107 128 138 28 48.2 % 2120 10.7 % 224 Hermann 1.1.12 : 2105 51 52 132 39.4 % 2179 30.3 % 225 Tornado 0.80.17b : 2101 37 36 292 41.4 % 2162 21.9 % 226 Black Bishop 0.9.7i : 2077 36 33 348 42.2 % 2132 16.1 % 227 Delphil 0.8f : 2072 131 128 28 42.9 % 2122 14.3 % 228 Tinker 4.69 2101 : 2070 68 49 123 32.9 % 2193 20.3 % 229 Greko 2.812 : 2062 133 74 48 21.9 % 2283 18.8 % 230 DrunkenMaster 1.1 : 2062 143 74 48 21.9 % 2283 14.6 % 231 WJChess v1.64 : 2060 107 126 28 41.1 % 2123 32.1 % 232 GES 1.27 : 2054 107 104 44 46.6 % 2078 6.8 % 233 AICE 0.73.1 : 2051 141 73 48 20.8 % 2283 16.7 % 234 Matacz 0.998 : 2042 55 57 132 45.8 % 2071 15.9 % 235 Kiwi 0.3b : 2039 67 48 133 33.5 % 2159 17.3 % 236 Horizon 4.1 b13 : 2029 160 71 48 18.8 % 2283 12.5 % 237 Chiron 0.3.8 : 2029 148 71 48 18.8 % 2283 16.7 % 238 AICE 0.80 : 2021 104 97 45 42.2 % 2076 13.3 % 239 Zeus 1.0.7 : 2012 55 60 119 60.5 % 1938 21.8 % 240 Ghost 0.14 : 2011 115 116 28 33.9 % 2126 32.1 % 241 Tinker 4.6.7 : 2010 112 95 44 39.8 % 2082 11.4 % 242 BigLion 2.23r : 2010 52 46 176 40.6 % 2076 16.5 % 243 BigLion 2.23i : 1988 82 36 172 22.7 % 2201 12.8 % 244 Neurosis 1.81 : 1978 35 36 296 43.4 % 2024 24.7 % 245 Gnuchess 5.07 : 1976 195 68 48 14.6 % 2283 8.3 % 246 FireFly v1.2.4 : 1969 61 51 119 53.4 % 1945 26.1 % 247 JanWillem 1.13 : 1964 62 53 120 52.5 % 1946 21.7 % 248 Marvin 1.3.0 : 1959 63 56 120 51.7 % 1947 16.7 % 249 FireFly v1.1.2b2 : 1949 61 40 176 31.8 % 2081 17.0 % 250 Tinker 4.6.5 : 1931 107 40 134 17.9 % 2195 11.9 % 251 Ayito 0.2.54 : 1930 52 62 118 47.0 % 1951 24.6 % 252 JanWillem 1.09 : 1838 92 34 177 18.9 % 2091 11.9 % 253 Surprise 4.2.1 : 1828 68 49 120 30.8 % 1969 23.3 % 254 Ant 2005-C : 1544 0 0 7 0.0 % 2144 0.0 % In the SSDF list (on the other hand) most of the programs do have at least 500 games (though there are many with 200 or less): THE SSDF RATING LIST 2005-02-25 %101022 games played by 270 computers Rating + - Games Won Oppo ------ --- --- ----- --- ---- 1 Shredder 8.0 CB 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2806 23 -22 1115 71% 2649 2 Shredder 7.04 UCI 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2805 22 -21 1110 70% 2660 3 Junior 9.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2796 35 -33 441 66% 2683 4 Deep Fritz 8.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2784 24 -23 942 70% 2634 5 Junior 8.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2767 25 -24 874 65% 2659 6 Shredder 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2766 26 -25 841 69% 2630 7 Deep Fritz 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2764 24 -23 938 65% 2655 8 Fritz 8.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2752 21 -21 1131 64% 2653 9 Deep Junior 8.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2747 32 -31 525 64% 2646 10 Gandalf 6.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2745 28 -27 672 61% 2664 11 Fritz 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2742 29 -28 634 63% 2651 12 Hiarcs 9.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2737 22 -21 1068 62% 2654 13 Shredder 6.0 Pad UCI 256MB Athlon 1200 2722 22 -22 1033 62% 2639 14 Chess Tiger 2004 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2721 26 -26 737 59% 2656 14 Shredder 6.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2721 31 -30 547 62% 2632 16 Chess Tiger 14.0 CB 256MB Athlon 1200 2719 29 -28 597 60% 2650 17 Chess Tiger 15.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2717 21 -21 1088 57% 2664 18 Deep Fritz 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2716 30 -29 571 61% 2641 19 Chessmaster 9000 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2715 36 -36 376 55% 2677 20 Gambit Tiger 2.0 256MB Athlon 1200 2714 29 -29 583 58% 2655 21 Junior 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2701 23 -22 961 53% 2680 22 Shredder 7.0 UCI 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2696 34 -34 429 54% 2666 23 Rebel 12.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2682 32 -32 484 57% 2631 23 Hiarcs 8.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2682 21 -21 1076 52% 2668 25 Ruffian 1.0.1 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2674 27 -26 688 53% 2656 25 Rebel Century 4.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2674 29 -29 590 60% 2603 27 Deep Sjeng 1.5a 256MB Athlon 1200 MH 2671 31 -31 493 52% 2660 28 Chess Tiger 15.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2666 30 -31 522 49% 2672 29 Shredder 5.32 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2660 26 -26 739 50% 2658 29 Gandalf 4.32h 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2660 28 -28 604 52% 2649 31 Deep Fritz 7.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2654 29 -29 590 51% 2650 32 Gandalf 5.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2653 36 -37 364 45% 2690 33 Deep Fritz 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2647 21 -21 1084 58% 2590 34 Gambit Tiger 2.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2638 28 -27 674 64% 2536 35 Chess Tiger 14.0 CB 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2637 23 -23 905 55% 2605 35 Gandalf 5.1 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2637 25 -25 758 55% 2604 37 Fritz 7.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2633 38 -37 348 53% 2610 38 Junior 7.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2631 21 -21 1143 56% 2588 39 Ruffian 2.0.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2619 54 -55 165 48% 2635 40 Crafty 18.12/CB 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2617 26 -26 727 49% 2622 40 Shredder 6.0 UCI 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2617 43 -43 264 52% 2607 42 Fritz 6.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2612 17 -17 1619 51% 2606 43 Gromit 3.11.9 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2607 44 -46 246 43% 2659 44 Yace Paderborn 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2604 35 -35 389 48% 2618 45 Shredder 5.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2603 24 -23 879 52% 2590 46 Chess Tiger 12.0 DOS 128MB K6-2 450 2599 19 -19 1365 50% 2600 47 Junior 6.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2593 15 -15 2144 49% 2598 48 Hiarcs 8.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2586 33 -34 440 42% 2646 49 Shredder 5.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2580 17 -17 1609 47% 2599 50 Shredder 4.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2570 23 -22 986 58% 2510 51 Rebel Century 4.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2567 52 -53 178 46% 2593 52 Fritz 5.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2555 20 -20 1194 48% 2573 53 Nimzo 8.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2554 20 -20 1162 47% 2576 54 Nimzo 7.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2552 18 -19 1416 47% 2574 55 Gandalf 5.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2544 73 -68 102 60% 2470 56 Junior 5.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2540 21 -21 1088 50% 2538 57 Gandalf 4.32f 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2533 28 -28 627 51% 2526 58 Hiarcs 7.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2531 18 -18 1496 41% 2596 59 Gandalf 4.32h 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2524 34 -34 418 52% 2509 60 Crafty 19.17 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2522 43 -47 264 31% 2664 61 Hiarcs 7.01 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2520 30 -31 525 43% 2572 62 Rebel Century 3.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2519 30 -30 546 49% 2524 63 SOS 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2518 15 -16 2085 37% 2610 63 Chessmaster 8000 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2518 44 -45 251 45% 2550 65 Goliath Light 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2510 18 -19 1488 32% 2642 66 Fritz 5.32 64MB P200 MMX 2494 14 -14 2563 42% 2549 67 Crafty 17.07/CB 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2493 21 -21 1137 40% 2565 68 Crafty 18.12/CB 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2492 27 -29 693 30% 2642 69 Nimzo 99 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2486 22 -22 996 44% 2529 70 MChess Pro 8.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2478 25 -26 753 40% 2549 71 Chessmaster 6000 64MB P200 MMX 2476 61 -53 184 76% 2281 71 Genius 6.5 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2476 29 -29 565 48% 2489 73 Hiarcs 7.32 64MB P200 MMX 2471 21 -21 1134 52% 2458 74 Fritz 5.0 PB29% 67MB P200 MMX 2463 23 -22 1005 66% 2345 75 Hiarcs 7.0 64MB P200 MMX 2462 21 -21 1112 55% 2423 76 Nimzo 99 64MB P200 MMX 2450 23 -23 885 51% 2443 77 Junior 5.0 64MB P200 MMX 2434 18 -18 1458 45% 2473 78 Nimzo 98 58MB P200 MMX 2433 19 -19 1352 51% 2429 79 Rebel 9.0 47MB P200 MMX 2423 24 -23 920 61% 2341 80 Hiarcs 6.0 49MB P200 MMX 2421 24 -24 829 56% 2377 81 Shredder 3.0 64MB P200 MMX 2419 20 -20 1262 48% 2431 82 Rebel 8.0 51MB P200 MMX 2410 22 -22 1011 47% 2434 83 MChess Pro 6.0 41MB P200 MMX 2409 24 -24 831 52% 2396 83 Zarkov 5.0 64MB P200 MMX 2409 25 -25 789 40% 2479 85 Shredder 2.0 58MB P200 MMX 2404 19 -19 1314 44% 2443 86 MChess Pro 7.1 46MB P200 MMX 2397 22 -22 1042 53% 2374 87 MChess Pro 8.0 64MB P200 MMX 2396 26 -26 701 54% 2365 88 Genius 5.0 DOS 46MB P200 MMX 2393 20 -20 1197 49% 2397 89 Chess Tiger 11.8 Pentium 90 MHz 2384 43 -43 261 50% 2386 90 Gandalf 3.0 64MB P200 MMX 2367 41 -40 307 59% 2299 91 WChess2000 64MB P200 MMX 2359 30 -31 542 37% 2451 92 Kallisto II 64MB P200 MMX 2346 35 -35 403 52% 2331 93 Rebel 8.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2339 18 -18 1435 55% 2304 94 Rebel 9.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2338 23 -23 890 47% 2359 95 Hiarcs 6.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2335 18 -18 1437 51% 2331 96 Genius 5.0 DOS Pentium 90 MHz 2331 18 -18 1558 47% 2351 97 Hiarcs 5.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2329 38 -36 363 59% 2264 98 MChess Pro 6.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2312 17 -17 1726 45% 2346 99 Genius 3.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2310 26 -25 785 61% 2230 100 MChess Pro 5.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2307 26 -25 769 63% 2215 100 Rebel 6.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2307 31 -30 540 60% 2236 102 Genius 4.0 DOS Pentium 90 MHz 2305 23 -23 944 60% 2236 103 Rebel 7.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2302 26 -25 759 61% 2220 104 Nimzo 3.5 Pentium 90 MHz 2296 22 -22 998 46% 2325 105 Hiarcs 4.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2293 25 -25 766 55% 2258 106 Junior 4.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2290 22 -22 1035 42% 2344 107 Chessmaster 5000 Pentium 90 MHz 2288 49 -45 240 67% 2163 108 Shredder 1.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2284 59 -58 145 53% 2265 109 Nimzo 3.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2281 26 -25 767 58% 2222 110 Hiarcs 3.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2275 30 -30 545 56% 2230 111 R30 v. 2.5 2274 41 -38 343 69% 2135 112 Genius 4.0 DOS 486/50-66 MHz 2267 23 -23 900 49% 2271 113 Junior 3.3-3.5 Pentium 90 MHz 2259 31 -31 516 47% 2279 114 CometA90 64MB P200 MMX 2258 36 -37 378 38% 2342 115 Genius 3.0 486/50-66 MHz 2256 24 -23 910 62% 2169 115 MChess Pro 4.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2256 29 -29 578 52% 2240 117 192 64MB P200 MMX 2252 42 -44 268 43% 2303 118 Fritz 3.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2243 18 -19 1438 42% 2300 119 Mephisto Genius 2.0 486/50-66 MHz 2236 23 -23 917 58% 2177 120 Fritz 4.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2234 40 -39 324 60% 2164 121 WChess 1.06 Pentium 90 MHz 2233 20 -20 1222 39% 2311 122 MChess Pro 5.0 486/50-66 MHz 2229 26 -26 691 50% 2231 123 Kallisto 1.98 Pentium 90 MHz 2228 21 -22 1049 42% 2286 124 Rebel 7.0 486/50-66 MHz 2227 25 -25 777 49% 2236 125 MChess Pro 4.0 486/50-66 MHz 2210 24 -24 846 53% 2186 126 Chess Machine 30-32 MHz Schr”der 3.1 2208 30 -28 606 64% 2106 127 Mephisto London 68 030 36 MHz 2203 40 -39 312 52% 2192 128 WChess 1.03 486/50-66 MHz 2199 27 -27 677 49% 2206 129 Rebel 6.0 486/50-66 MHz 2197 24 -23 887 55% 2163 129 Hiarcs 3.0 486/50-66 MHz 2197 24 -24 865 50% 2194 131 Meph Genius 68 030 33 MHz 2196 43 -42 267 55% 2157 132 Ch.Machine 30 MHz King 2.0 aggr/R30off 2195 21 -20 1219 63% 2100 133 Chessmaster 4000 486/50-66 MHz 2192 34 -33 462 66% 2071 134 Chess Genius 1.0 486/50-66 MHz 2184 23 -22 971 55% 2148 135 Rebel Decade Pentium 90 MHz 2176 29 -30 563 45% 2213 136 Chess Machine 30 MHz Schr”der 3.0 2174 62 -55 168 73% 2002 137 Mephisto Gideon Pro 486/50-66 MHz 2172 35 -34 421 62% 2083 138 MChess Pro 3.5 486/50-66 MHz 2168 23 -22 958 51% 2160 139 MChess Pro 3.12 486/50-66 MHz 2165 36 -34 438 69% 2022 140 Fritz 3.0 486/50-66 MHz 2160 20 -20 1246 46% 2191 141 Mephisto Lyon 68030 36 MHz 2151 28 -27 716 68% 2016 142 Chess Genius 1.0 486/33 MHz 2140 32 -32 483 50% 2143 143 Mephisto Portorose 68030 36 MHz 2138 40 -36 407 77% 1928 144 Mephisto Vancouver 68030 36 MHz 2127 35 -33 471 71% 1971 145 Meph RISC 2 1 MB 2126 62 -66 125 39% 2207 145 MChess Pro 3.12 486/33 MHz 2126 50 -48 208 60% 2052 145 Berlin Pro 68 020 24 MHz 2126 24 -24 850 58% 2071 148 Kasparov SPARC 20 MHz 2124 23 -23 912 45% 2158 149 Kallisto 1.82-1.83 486/50-66 MHz 2108 21 -21 1117 42% 2166 150 Mephisto RISC 1 MB ARM 2 14 MHz 2103 19 -19 1316 56% 2060 150 Comet32 Pentium 90 MHz 2103 24 -25 991 24% 2307 152 Chess Tiger 14.9 Palm m515 16MB 42MHz 2102 69 -74 100 39% 2181 153 Hiarcs Master 2.0 486/33 MHz 2100 46 -46 229 51% 2091 154 Mephisto Montreux ARM 14 MHz 512K 2096 28 -27 729 72% 1933 155 MChess 1.1-1.71 486/33 MHz 2093 44 -40 326 74% 1915 156 Chess Machine Schr”der 512K ARM2 16MHz 2092 27 -26 703 62% 2008 157 Saitek RISC 2500 ARM2 14 MHz 128K 2090 20 -20 1236 55% 2056 158 Atlanta SH7000 20 MHz 2085 28 -27 687 67% 1958 159 Chess Machine The King 512K ARM2 16MHz 2074 32 -32 473 55% 2036 160 Mephisto Vancouver 68020 12 MHz 2061 23 -22 1041 65% 1950 161 Mephisto Lyon 68020 12 MHz 2050 19 -18 1442 59% 1986 162 Socrates 3.0 486/33 MHz 2039 49 -50 203 47% 2060 163 Fritz 2.0 486/33 MHz 2029 30 -30 537 45% 2067 164 Mephisto Portorose 68020 12 MHz 2027 26 -24 896 73% 1855 165 M Chess 1.1-1.71 386/25-33 MHz 2025 36 -35 408 65% 1917 166 Star Sapphire 2024 40 -39 317 58% 1970 167 Fidelity Elite 68030 32 MHz (vers.9) 2021 31 -30 521 60% 1948 168 Mephisto Berlin 68 000 12 MHz 2015 22 -22 986 57% 1966 169 Sapphire II 2008 33 -32 484 62% 1923 170 Mephisto Vancouver 68000 12 MHz 2003 21 -20 1159 54% 1976 171 Mephisto Lyon 68000 12 MHz 2002 20 -20 1190 56% 1960 172 Mephisto MM 4 Turbo Kit 6502 16 MHz 1993 46 -42 292 73% 1818 173 Novag Sapphire H8 10 MHz 1990 21 -22 1056 47% 2012 174 Atlanta Brute Force SH7000 20 MHz 1980 54 -52 175 56% 1940 175 Milano Pro SH7000 20 MHz 1976 32 -31 509 60% 1903 176 Fidelity Mach IV 68020 20 MHz 1974 18 -18 1495 48% 1988 177 Mephisto Almeria 68020 12 MHz 1973 42 -40 305 62% 1885 178 Hiarcs Master 1.0 486/33 MHz 1970 48 -48 214 48% 1986 179 Mephisto Portorose 68000 12 MHz 1946 24 -24 867 60% 1871 180 Mephisto Polgar 6502 10 MHz 1942 43 -41 283 59% 1879 181 Fritz 1.0 486/33 MHz 1941 48 -47 215 55% 1908 182 Gandalf 2.1 Pentium 90 MHz 1938 46 -51 242 27% 2113 183 Fidelity Elite 68000 x 2 (vers. 5) 1937 49 -48 209 57% 1887 184 Nimzo 2.2.1 486/33 MHz 1934 46 -47 229 42% 1988 185 Mephisto Roma 68020 14 MHz 1930 27 -26 712 65% 1819 185 Rex Chess 2.3 386/25-33 MHz 1930 65 -62 126 59% 1864 187 Zarkov 3.0 486/25-33 MHz 1929 46 -48 232 39% 2008 188 Mephisto Dallas 68020 14 MHz 1923 35 -32 492 72% 1761 189 Zarkov 2.5 386/25-33 MHz 1920 56 -53 168 61% 1841 190 Kasparov Brute Force H8 10 MHz 1917 23 -23 910 44% 1958 190 Mephisto Almeria 68000 12 MHz 1917 28 -27 658 60% 1844 192 Fritz 1.0 386/25-33 MHz 1907 66 -67 113 46% 1938 193 Novag Diablo 68000 16 MHz 1905 21 -21 1123 41% 1971 194 Fidelity Mach III 68000 16 MHz 1893 14 -14 2410 52% 1880 195 Complete Chess System 486/33 MHz 1884 47 -47 221 47% 1906 196 Kasparov President/GK-2100 H8 10 MHz 1878 29 -29 581 46% 1906 197 Mephisto MM 5 6502 5 MHz 1874 19 -19 1374 47% 1897 198 Mephisto Dallas 68000 12 MHz 1871 21 -20 1177 61% 1794 198 Chess Genius 1.5 Palm m515 16MB 42MHz 1871 69 -78 100 32% 2003 200 Mephisto Polgar 6502 5 MHz 1870 16 -17 1838 40% 1939 200 Mephisto Roma 68000 12 MHz 1870 18 -18 1519 56% 1827 202 Mephisto Milano 6502 5 MHz 1861 23 -23 940 39% 1938 203 Novag Super Expert C 6502 6 MHz Sel 5 1860 18 -18 1555 46% 1891 203 Zarkov 2.6 386/25-33 MHz 1860 64 -62 125 56% 1817 205 Mephisto Academy 6502 5 MHz 1839 17 -18 1595 43% 1886 206 Chessmaster 3000 386/25-33 MHz 1832 68 -74 103 36% 1931 207 Rex Chess 2.3 386/16-20 MHz 1830 53 -53 174 49% 1836 208 Saitek Leonardo Maestro B 6502 18 MHz 1828 73 -67 105 62% 1742 209 Mephisto Amsterdam 68000 12 MHz 1827 22 -22 1020 58% 1773 210 Novag Super Expert B 6502 6 MHz sel 4 1819 29 -29 564 48% 1835 211 Saitek Maestro D 6502 10 MHz 1816 26 -26 736 51% 1809 212 Mephisto Mega IV 6502 4.9 MHz 1815 17 -18 1604 43% 1862 212 Fidelity Excel Mach IIc 68000 12 MHz 1815 23 -23 955 50% 1811 214 Novag Expert Turbo Kit 6502 16 MHz 1810 67 -63 120 61% 1730 215 Mephisto MM 4 6502 5 MHz 1804 19 -19 1288 51% 1800 216 Fidelity Travel Master H8/330 10 MHz 1797 65 -79 123 22% 2012 216 Mephisto Modena 6502 4 MHz 1797 27 -28 655 40% 1868 218 Kasparov GK-2000 H8 10 MHz 1796 29 -29 593 42% 1852 219 Psion Atari 68000 8 MHz 1782 18 -18 1487 44% 1828 220 CXG Sphinx Galaxy 6502 4 MHz 1780 17 -17 1733 37% 1874 221 Novag Ruby H8 10 MHz 1779 30 -30 545 42% 1834 222 Fidelity Excel Mach IIa 68000 12 MHz 1778 46 -47 226 47% 1798 223 Saitek Turboking II 6502 5 MHz 1768 23 -23 963 37% 1864 224 Conchess Plymate Victoria 6502 5.5 MHz 1767 26 -27 701 40% 1841 225 Fidelity Excel Club 68000 12 MHz 1758 23 -23 931 51% 1749 226 Mephisto Mega IV Brute Force 1749 34 -35 422 38% 1838 227 Novag Super Expert/Forte A 6502 5 MHz 1739 19 -19 1425 37% 1833 228 Fidelity Par Excellence 6502 5 MHz 1735 22 -22 1022 48% 1746 228 Fidelity Avant Garde 6502 5 MHz 1735 20 -20 1196 46% 1766 230 Mephisto Rebell 6502 5 MHz 1724 19 -19 1393 38% 1809 231 Saitek Stratos/Analys B 6502 6 MHz 1720 20 -21 1213 38% 1808 232 Mephisto Super Mondial 6502 4 MHz 1719 18 -19 1455 35% 1826 233 Novag Forte B 6502 5 MHz 1716 24 -24 837 44% 1760 234 Saitek Leonardo Maestro A 6502 6 MHz 1711 30 -30 547 45% 1746 235 Novag Forte A 6502 5 MHz 1709 22 -22 964 48% 1722 236 Conchess Plymate 6502 5.5 MHz 1708 15 -16 2040 40% 1781 237 Saitek Simultano/Corona C 6502 5 MHz 1706 23 -24 969 33% 1832 238 Fidelity Excellence 6502 4 MHz 1701 18 -18 1565 43% 1752 239 Novag Expert 6502 4 MHz 1689 24 -24 843 42% 1747 240 Fidelity Elegance 6502 3.6 MHz 1681 40 -40 303 54% 1652 241 Conchess Plymate 6502 4 MHz 1680 39 -38 333 55% 1648 242 Mephisto MM 2 6502 3.7 MHz 1673 49 -48 208 52% 1656 243 Saitek Turbostar 432 6502 4 MHz 1665 22 -22 1005 45% 1702 244 Fidelity Excellence 6502 3 MHz 1657 22 -23 960 42% 1715 245 Saitek Kasparov Blitz 1635 45 -47 239 37% 1725 246 Novag Super Nova 1634 37 -38 350 40% 1703 247 Novag Super Constellation 6502 4 MHz 1631 18 -18 1626 35% 1740 248 Conchess Glasgow 6502 4 MHz 1620 39 -39 327 50% 1622 249 Chessplayer 2150 Atari/Amiga 1614 58 -63 146 33% 1737 250 The Final Chesscard 6502 5 MHz 1600 57 -64 156 27% 1772 251 Novag Super VIP 1588 53 -58 174 32% 1717 252 Chessmaster 2100 Amiga 68000 1587 65 -76 120 25% 1774 253 Mephisto Europa 1583 50 -52 190 42% 1641 254 Saitek Superstar 36K 6502 2 MHz 1579 23 -24 954 31% 1719 255 Fidelity Elite A/S 6502 3.2 MHz 1578 22 -23 1043 28% 1741 256 Chess Champion 2175 Atari/Amiga 1573 56 -62 157 30% 1722 257 Conchess Glasgow 6502 2 MHz 1567 24 -25 855 34% 1682 258 Novag Quattro 6502 4 MHz 1563 30 -31 560 33% 1691 259 Fidelity Prestige 6502 4 MHz 1561 64 -66 118 44% 1603 260 Chessmaster 2000 Atari 68000 8 MHz 1554 41 -45 312 25% 1741 261 Novag Constellation 6502 3.6 MHz 1548 31 -32 504 41% 1615 262 Novag Constellation Primo 1538 57 -59 149 44% 1583 263 Novag Constellation 6502 2 MHz 1497 32 -33 479 35% 1606 264 CXG Super Enterprise 1463 36 -39 386 28% 1627 There are also George and Leo's lists, all of which impart useful information. But I think it is not accurate to say that CEGT or AEGT can replace the SSDF.
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