Author: Günther Simon
Date: 13:09:02 07/31/05
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On July 31, 2005 at 11:16:26, Vasik Rajlich wrote: >On July 31, 2005 at 08:36:00, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On July 31, 2005 at 06:15:01, Günther Simon wrote: >> >>>On July 31, 2005 at 00:49:33, Madhavan wrote: >>> >>>>On July 30, 2005 at 12:33:06, Günther Simon wrote: >>>> >>>>>On July 30, 2005 at 11:47:18, Madhavan wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On July 30, 2005 at 10:00:02, Uri Blass wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On July 30, 2005 at 07:07:48, Günther Simon wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On July 29, 2005 at 20:01:32, Pablo Ignacio Restrepo wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Some words to the great Alejandro Mendez from playchess. !!!!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Alejandro Mendez(son-of-father), from Argentina, have won to Zappa 2.0b. in a >>>>>>>>>10+10 time control game. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Son-Of-Father, a human being, have had until 2737 elo into engines room >>>>>>>>>fromplaychess playing and beating many engines 100% as a human being. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Now the tourn for a k.o. have been to Zappa. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>This is worse than yellow press. >>>>>>>>The game was played by a beta tester of Zappa (not by Anthony, not by Arturo) >>>>>>>>and it was played at the crappy Playchess server with a buggy GUI (the only >>>>>>>>one allowed there). The buggy GUI cannot play on after move 256. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I am not sure if the chessbase interface cannot play on or if it sends the >>>>>>>engine wrong information that cause it to lose on time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I tested Movei under the chessbase interface not in playchess and one of the >>>>>>>problem is that after move 256 the interface send fen and not a move. >>>>>>>It also seems to me that the chessbase interface does not send correct time to >>>>>>>the engine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>and in 10+10 assumes that the time remaining is always 610 seconds regardless to >>>>>>>the time on the clock. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>programs probably can play if they do not believe the time that the interface >>>>>>>tell them but they should also know to ignore the position that they >>>>>>>get(otherwise they can do repetition in a better position for no reason). >>>>>> >>>>>>I checked out the playchess site,once you offer a draw,you can't claim to offer >>>>>>more draws unless 5 moves are made after the 1st claim,the bug has been fixed. >>>>>> >>>>>>>Uri >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Even if you can now only offer silly draws after 5 moves it is an incredible >>>>>bug, that the _opponent_ needs to close that silly draw offers on _his_ time. >>>> >>>>sir,Its not like a player cannot have chance to offer draw.5 moves is reasonable >>>>when you play in tournament[physical presence]I bet you can bug your winning >>>>opponent with more draws in less than 1 move!how can your opponent ignore you? >>> >>>This is forbidden, you should know? >>> >>>> >>>>ignoring a draw is just a matter of pressing spacebar,you have to click the draw >>>>on the corner which takes more time for you to do just that than your winning >>>>opponent pressing space bar. >>>> >>>>>Most people play blitz or even bullet there,(you e.g. play only bullet I see...) >>>> >>>>What's your playchess user Id? >>>>have you spectated any of my games? >>>> >>>>>so 5 moves are just nothing and you are able to annoy your winning opponent >>>>>again. >>>> >>>>see above.5 moves are reasonable,winning player should have oppurtinity to offer >>>>draw to ahis opponent if he had lless time left in his clock.otherwise the >>>>winning player would lose on time inspite of positinal and material advantage. >>> >>>You seem not to understand? It is about declining draw offers! >>>There is no reason that a winning player has to lose time on random actions >>>to a sour loser, anyone will get this. >>> >>>> >>>>>Sometimes I think such GUIs are only made by non chess players... >>>> >>>>Chess Grandmasters designed Chessbase GUI,its very nice and better than any >>>>other online server GUI's,better than Arena[not a 3d,no even a 2d]I might add. >>> >>>Nonsense and nonsense, Arena is no chess server. >>>ICC is much better than PlayChess and also ChessAssistant chess server is >>>better, PlayChess as usual doesn't care for fixing bugs like M$. >>> >>> >>>>>What about the abort offers BTW? >>>> >>>>thats nonsense,winning player should have oppurtinity to accept the draw offer >>>>when he has enough time left in his clock >>> >>>No idea what you are talking about? See above. Moreover why do you talk no >>>agian about offreing draws?? You ansered a sentence now about 'aborting'! >>> >>> >>>> >>>>>Such a feature only leads to permanent cheating attempts. >>>> >>>>Cheating?you couldnt cheat on chessbase server >>> >>>Haha, you seem already brainwashed by Playchess propaganda. You have >>>never seen that around 1 player about every 5 minutes is caught cheating? >>>And this is only the tip of the iceberg, most will never be caught... >>> >>>> >>>>>(There are lots of cheaters anyway, if one searches through the lists, >>>>>one can find people with ridiculous national ratings having > 2300 in >>>>>bullet and blitz) >>>> >>>>I would like to let you know that Playchess rating is not measured as per FIDe >>>>rating,Playchess rating evaluates very low for a good FIDE rated player,there >>>>are many players having 2200 FIDe rating but less playchess rating[about 1700] >>>>If the player is rated 2000 in playchess server,he might be around 2400 FIDE >>>>elo.and in other case,my internet connection is very slow,damn slow!and I was >>>>playing bullet games. >>> >>>It's exactly different Playchess ratings are much too high regarding >>>FIDE ratings, thats true for all chess servers except FICS. >> >>It is correct only if you look at the rating of the best players. >>if you look at blitz rating of players with fide rating near 2000 then it is not >>always the case and in significant part of the cases players have better fide >>rating relative to blitz rating. >> >>Uri > >Server ratings are pretty strange. I have several friends who are in normal >blitz about my level, whose ICC ratings are 300 points above mine. > >I also doubt it's just because of cheating. You should be able to get at least a >3000 rating if you cheat and have a working brain. Besides, some of these people >have played 2000+ games. I'd think it would get a bit boring after a while. > >Vas Vas, not all cheaters are that stupid to come up with a 3000 rating, when they know they will get away with 2500, without any action from the mods there. Guenther
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