Author: Vasik Rajlich
Date: 09:31:50 08/02/05
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On August 01, 2005 at 17:59:20, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>On August 01, 2005 at 15:16:55, Peter Berger wrote:
>
>>ROTFL - sorry for the subject line .. - hope I can still post sth of at least
>>limitted interest.
>>
>>1.) Toying around with Fruit 2.1 currently - that would be change no 1 - now
>>there is a free open source amateur engine that is just as strong as the
>>strongest commercials on ordinary PCs . No, that's no news anymore. But just as
>>others I had to see it for myself, despite various previous reports.
>>
>>2.) Second one is about openings. Dann Corbit built an interesting book for
>>Fruit IMHO. I guess it's completely automated, but he chose a good point to
>>leave book, usually about 2 or 3 moves before known theory ends, with something
>>like 10-15 moves of opening theory on average. And in several games Fruit finds
>>interesting and valid alternatives to grandmaster analysis.
>>
>>Just a little example ( my sources might be slightly dated as I don't play the
>>Ruy from either side).
>>
>>[Event "50 3"]
>>[Site "Centrino 1.6- PIV 3.2"]
>>[Date "2005.08.01"]
>>[Round "11"]
>>[White "Junior 9.0.0.3"]
>>[Black "Fruit 2.1"]
>>[ECO "C80"]
>>[Result "0-1"]
>>
>>1. e4 {0s} e5 {+0.01/1 1s} 2. Nf3 {3s} Nc6 {+0.01/1 0s}
>>3. Bb5 {2s} a6 {+0.01/1 0s} 4. Ba4 {2s} Nf6 {+0.01/1 0s}
>>5. O-O {3s} Nxe4 {+0.01/1 0s} 6. d4 {2s} b5 {+0.01/1 0s}
>>7. Bb3 {2s} d5 {+0.01/1 0s} 8. dxe5 {3s} Be6 {+0.01/1 0s}
>>9. Nbd2 {3s} Nc5 {+0.01/1 0s} 10. c3 {3s} d4 {+0.01/1 0s}
>>11. Ng5 {3s} dxc3 {+0.01/1 0s} 12. Nxe6 {4s} fxe6 {+0.01/1
>>0s} 13. bxc3 {4s} Qd3 {+0.01/1 0s} 14. Bc2 {4s} Qxc3
>>{+0.42/13 1:16m} 15. Nb3 {3s}
>>
>>A famous line of the Open Ruy known to be busted (11. .. dxc3?!) - that's
>>Kasparov-Anand, New York PCA WCh (10) 1995, 14. Bc2 is ! and 15. Nb3!! . NCO and
>>ECO have a look at 15. ...Nxb3 and 15. ...Rd8 and prove a clear white advantage.
>>Fruit, ever sceptical, just takes on e5 (and how come this move doesn't even get
>>mentioned?).
>>
>>[D]r3kb1r/2p3pp/p1n1p3/1pn1P3/8/1Nq5/P1B2PPP/R1BQ1RK1 b kq -
>>
>>Whatever the absolute thruth, Fruit got very decent compensation for the
>>exchange in the game and in fact had little trouble to reach a major advantage
>>against the world champion, who lacked counterplay and pawn levers. Most moves
>>even looked very obvious. Similar happened in several other Fruit games I have
>>watched. I am getting more and more sceptical of classical opening books.
>
>I am sceptical about Qxe5. Of course black should have avoided a Qeen trade by
>any means in this game with 19.Qxd2 or should have played other moves before.
>19. Ne4 was a huge strategical blunder.
>
>IMO not a single Master would trade Qeens in such a position.
>A typical example of short sighted computer play.
>
>Michael
Yeah, I agree with this. Just play 19. Qd2 Bxc5 20. Qe2 and black looks pretty
bad.
Shredder wants to defend there with 20. .. 0-0 21. Bxh7 Kh8 22. Rf1 Qxf2+ 23.
Rxf2 Rxf2 24. Qxf2+ Bxf2+ 25. Kxf2 Kh7 but black is just going to lose this
ending.
Regarding the subject - actually, Fruit is going back to an earlier paradigm
which may make sense again now that search depths are greater. With shallow
depths, you take a huge risk if you underestimate king safety.
Vas
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