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Subject: Re: Clones and moral behavior

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 07:29:19 08/23/05

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On August 23, 2005 at 10:10:11, Robert Hollay wrote:

>On August 23, 2005 at 05:29:33, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>On August 23, 2005 at 04:58:29, Robert Hollay wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Just look at the huge thankses and acknowledgement lists on the end of
>>>Readme.txt of many other original engines (e.g. Baron, Glaurung, Pepito,
>>>Sjeng, Ktulu, Amyan ...) for sharing codes, code snippets, ideas, etc.
>>> Are you considering all them as clones ?!
>>> As far as you mention Fabien Letouzey in your Readme.txt for sharing his ideas
>>>with you, there shouldn't be a problem at all.
>>
>>Exactly - however I would regard all the above mentioned engines as clones. No
>>doubt about it. If the list gets too long then the clone status is proven.
>
> What? If I sincerely acknowledge the other's contribution to my achievements
>then my engine is undoubtedly a clone ?!
> There are much more engines around without a single line of "thanks to.."
>or even a readme.txt, but this does not mean they are all started from scratch.
>
>>All
>>the transfering into something else (what Uri seems to have in mind) doesn't
>>change matters at all. If someone could write me a transformation tool with
>>which I could by simple pushing buttons transfer code from FRUIT into my
>>personal Monster CRY WOLF then even I could participate in one of the next Wch.
>>Supposed I have time enough.
>
> I don't know what Uri has in his mind. It's another thing that many of us
>prefer original style engines, even if they are not so strong.
> I'm not sure if I would like Movei better if it puts on some 150-200 ELO,
>and start playing Fruit-style games.
>
>Robert

It will never happen

I may take some productive ideas from fruit but I certainly do not plan to copy
evaluation without changes in the default personality for movei(maybe I will
allow people to change movei so that the evaluation will be the same as fruit2.1
and it is possible that even this is not going to happen).

Uri



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