Author: Joachim Rang
Date: 05:41:38 08/24/05
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On August 24, 2005 at 07:55:05, Shaley wrote: >On August 24, 2005 at 06:59:48, Joachim Rang wrote: > >>On August 24, 2005 at 06:35:40, Zheng Zhixian wrote: >> >>>On August 24, 2005 at 03:27:48, Joachim Rang wrote: >>> >>>>On August 24, 2005 at 01:11:36, William Sorin wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>Will someone describe the chracteristics of Fruit as opposed to the playing >>>>>style of other programs? Can it be described as human like? How I define >>>>>humanlike is the ability to play speculatively. What are the main strengths of >>>>>fruit? weaknesses? >>>> >>>>Fruit plays most certainly not humanlike but unspectacular. I agree that it >>>>plays positionally fine but I think the strength of Fruit is that it plays very >>>>balanced. It has no big weaknesses and plays not speculative like Junior or >>>>Shredder. The playing style can be described as boring and coputerish but that >>>>is the way to score your points. Fruit often refutes an unsound atack from great >>>>attackers like Junior or Shredder (like in the WCCC). >>> >>>I see Peter Berger and Fabien and calling it a "skeptical program". ?? >> >>no speculative sacrifices, no unsound attacks, no over-optimistic evaluation of >>some positions, just sound chess. ;-) >> >>regards Joachim >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>kind regards >>>> >>>>Joachim >Speaking of sound chess, Fritz 9 prototype produces more sound positional chess >combined with wild attacking. >Especially, this position (White: Kc1, pawns: a3, b4, c3, d4, e5, f4, g3, h2; >Black: Kf7, Ra8, Rh8, Bc6, pawns: a4, b5, c4, d5, e6, f5, g4, h3. Black to move) >he evaluates as a dead draw and other programmes as a win for black. You can try >Fruit 2.1 or Fruit WCCC on evaluating this position, if you don't believe me. Of >all of the programmes only Fritz and Shredder are certain it's a draw. This is some kind of special knowledge and irrelevant for playing strength. I'm not saying that Fruit has more or better knowledge of specific chess positions than Fritz (it most certainly has less) but that it _plays_ very good. My definition of sound chess is: it wins more often. ;-) kind regards Joachim
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