Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 15:04:35 09/09/05
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On September 09, 2005 at 17:50:58, Mig Greengard wrote: >I'm not a ChessBase employee, loyal or otherwise. > >ChessBase not being attacked? I guess you are new to these boards. You should >look through the archives for the comments about ChessBase's lack of coverage of >the WCCC. Saying I'm defending them or making excuses presupposes there is >something for them to be ashamed of or worried about. > >I said an 11-round tournament was no more definitive than human chess. But since >playing dozens and hundreds of games between computers is both practical and >common, unlike with humans, yes, there is a higher standard for agreeing on >legitimacy of strength. Or would you be happy if the computer rating list >required just a dozen games? Running around and shouting the king is dead when >Shredder and Junior don't win is just as sensible as declaring Arkady Naiditsch >world champion because he won Dortmund. It was a great result, a deserved win, >and should be praised and enjoyed for what it is. It's also symbolic to a >certain degree, mostly because Fruit is open source. Strong new engines have >almost always been amateur. You are right about the reliability of a short event like this. However, the contest is sponsored by the official sanctioning body for computer chess and is every bit as much a world championship as a FIDE event (the best man does not always win those either). Now, as for a reliable reference to which program is strongest, the SSDF is far more sensible. But in the same manner with FIDE, we do not choose the world champion just due to their Elo score (though that method would actually be as good as any, I imagine). We have to have some formal contest to win. It is the same with computer chess. >I was surprised that ChessBase didn't cover the event and tried to explain >several possible rationales, both for not playing and for not covering it. I >think they should have covered it, obviously. If not daily, at least the result.
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