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Subject: Re: Mig's article on 2005 WCCC, plus short interview with A. Cozzie

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 15:08:23 09/09/05

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On September 09, 2005 at 18:04:35, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On September 09, 2005 at 17:50:58, Mig Greengard wrote:
>
>>I'm not a ChessBase employee, loyal or otherwise.
>>
>>ChessBase not being attacked? I guess you are new to these boards. You should
>>look through the archives for the comments about ChessBase's lack of coverage of
>>the WCCC. Saying I'm defending them or making excuses presupposes there is
>>something for them to be ashamed of or worried about.
>>
>>I said an 11-round tournament was no more definitive than human chess. But since
>>playing dozens and hundreds of games between computers is both practical and
>>common, unlike with humans, yes, there is a higher standard for agreeing on
>>legitimacy of strength. Or would you be happy if the computer rating list
>>required just a dozen games? Running around and shouting the king is dead when
>>Shredder and Junior don't win is just as sensible as declaring Arkady Naiditsch
>>world champion because he won Dortmund.

How about: Khalifman, A.
Best player in the world in 1999?
http://www.mark-weeks.com/chess/9899$wix.htm

>>It was a great result, a deserved win,
>>and should be praised and enjoyed for what it is. It's also symbolic to a
>>certain degree, mostly because Fruit is open source. Strong new engines have
>>almost always been amateur.
>
>You are right about the reliability of a short event like this.
>However, the contest is sponsored by the official sanctioning body for computer
>chess and is every bit as much a world championship as a FIDE event (the best
>man does not always win those either).
>
>Now, as for a reliable reference to which program is strongest, the SSDF is far
>more sensible.  But in the same manner with FIDE, we do not choose the world
>champion just due to their Elo score (though that method would actually be as
>good as any, I imagine).  We have to have some formal contest to win.  It is the
>same with computer chess.
>
>>I was surprised that ChessBase didn't cover the event and tried to explain
>>several possible rationales, both for not playing and for not covering it. I
>>think they should have covered it, obviously. If not daily, at least the result.



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